This will penetrate all remaining defences against business spionage
 

Windows 10 set to become a closed, cloud-based OS.

That means companies' IT-structures get remote-controlled by servers by MS. In the US. Defence is impossible since the penetration takes place by launching the OS already.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/d...em_Rumour.html

Why am I preaching since years against first testing balloons being accepted by a careless consumers? This ^ is why. Its not just privacy and advert targeting anymore. It's about business spionage of so far unknown dimensions.

Profiteer: the place where the servers are. Which is which country...?

Long live linux then....

I don't think Microsoft is so suicidal besides the article is very sketchy.

Can't see it happening...Microsoft would be risking all their eggs in the same basket.

Actually they are trailing behind in this trend. Apple does it like this since long time, imprisoning its customers in the closed and locked appleverse. Android is a closed OS. Amazon's Kindle is closed. Consoles more and more have moved for this way of gaming. Social networks. And of course the googleverse.

Let'S face it, it is the general trend: closed, remote controlled OS.

And their stubborness with W8 and 8.1 demonstrates that they have no intention to give it up.

I don't see it happening. Computers are heavily used in places where there is no reliable internet connection or where there is none at all.

I would disagree with that statement's conclusion. The lucrative market is the developed world, the business places , the economy and industry, the players in the developed countries, consumer households.

The occasional notebook you see in the centre of the Kalahari means nothing.

And you would not believe me in what god-forsaken places I have seen satellite telephones already in the early and mid-90s. ;)

This is not the only joke, MS Exchange will be cloud-based from 1/2014 on.

Yes, all your precious eMails along with the managing tools for it will be in 'the cloud'. The NSA gave information on german companies to US ones since decades, so imagine what will happen now..
I just wonder which meds some US people take, to have that level of delusion ..

Our company just ordered the last Small business server with Exchange 2010 onboard, because there will be none after december 31st, 2013; the future Exchange 'server' will be completely cloud-based.

Same with Adobe b.t.w., you will now pay 4000 Dollars for the last complete suite version (CS6), and CS 7 will cost the same - annually. From 1/2014 on. You lend it temporarily, for this small price.

We are urgently searching for a replacement after the next 5 years, and I foresee golden times for Linux, and russian programmers and their software.



B.t.w. and a bit OT (lmao): LG TVs tell their company what you see, from inserted USB sticks, to streaming, to just watching ordinary programs. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technol...s-send-2815798

There is no privacy anymore. 'Brave new world' and '1984' - god you poor harmless authors had no idea of what was to come.

Android is closed?
Far from it.

Get used to hearing an updated voice (maybe Siri's?) quoting the oft-repeated and iconic line,
"I'm sorry, Dave, but I'm afraid I can't do that."

Besides, Bill Gates lied to me. He said that 256 kB or RAM should be enough to run any program ;)

WINDOWS 98SE FOR LIFE! :rotfl2:

Anyway, slow down. We haven't even had windows 9 yet. I don't see how we can accurately speculate on Windows 10. :hmmm:

However, the cloud IS becoming popular.

I don't trust the cloud. :shifty:

The cloud is becoming popular because people like me are lazy as hell.

I use lync online: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ly...103789571.aspx

Its 2$ per user per month, I switched to it because it is simply unbeatable price and effort wise.

In comparison, if I want to install lync myself, I own a license, but just look at the install guide:

http://gallery.technet.microsoft.com...-2012-9d6fe954


Nearly 200 pages and its "step by step for everyone"!


I can't even be bothered to run my own build server now, between a custom server for debugging python scripts and visual studio online, all my programming is going into the cloud. Using an image in Amazon EC2 and paying by the hour is so much easier than setting up my own server to manage it.


Now the thing is, do I bother to care if Microsoft or Amazon is reading my code. After all, I would love it if they can fix it for me!:haha:


The cloud is very attractive for small scale users, since rolling out your own infrastructure is too damned difficult (go read that Lync setup guide, thats why full time lync admins get paid good money).


Am I concerned about my code? You could say that, but at this point, i really can't care less, the convenience the cloud provides makes it a good choice for me.

Now its obvious that the cloud is really, really effective and a good choice for small users. After all, industrial espionage isn't really a concern for small home users.


One thing that is very interesting is the rise of private clouds, like the IBM cloud deployments:

http://www.ibm.com/cloud-computing/u...ate-cloud.html


Now the question is, would you trust someone that you know better to run your cloud deployment? Would you feel safer if it was a "Subsim cloud" instead of Amazon EC2?



PS: speculating on Windows 10 already? Come on man, Windows 8.1 is barely out and you are speculating 2 versions ahead:haha:

Not closed like "shut down", but closed like "cocooned, encapsuled". Maybe my wording was wrong!?

Only a year ago when I downloaded music from Amazon I got a download box that showed the progress of the download. One day I got a message that I had to install the Cloud app, and from now on I had to go through the cloud app to download my music. I complained. They refunded my money from that purchase. I called them and said I didn't want my money back, they deserved it, I just wanted to not have to use the stupid cloud app.

They may have listened, or I may have just gotten used to it. Now when I purchase some music to download I get a page that says
"Your music has been saved to the Cloud.
1. Listen to your music on the cloud.
2. Download your music to your computer."

It's still annoying but it's a lot simpler now.

Tyrant,

the cloud is located in the US, becasue the servers are. For companies, having their computers remote-controllable from external clouds (=US spies), is no way to go for them. Its like banks having their safe mechanisms controlled by robbers in another country.

Google and MS can claim as much as they want that they do not cooperate with the US intel services. They do, 100% certain, and I take it for certain as well that the US services massively support what the British prime minister demanded from the British GCHQ: to "support business interests of the British industry".

In other words the governmental services are ordered to steal everything from foreign companies that is of value to own companies: financial papers, inventions, blueprints, formulas, development data.

If you store that in the cloud, or you have it in your own companies network - but that network depends on an OS that only exists in the cloud, located in the US - guess in whose hands control of you data ends.

I will run W7 to death, and then disconnect it from the web, and getting a second computer based on Linux and open Gnu-sofdtware and the like. It's clear. I will not increase but reduce my internet dependence and activities.

I'm loosing interest in all that anyway, slowly, but constantly. So it is more a question of timing anyway.

I don know what you mean....in Android it is all up to you.
In the idiot proof mode its closed and for good reason.

What are you complaining here exactly?

Do you really think that whoever cares about security will go along with it...if ever comes to this.

Cloud based OS ... :doh: