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Red October1984 10-31-13 12:03 AM
Another Science Question
 
Quantum Physics time....

Ok....

All things are made of matter right? Things that have mass have matter and take up space.

A Photon is defined in my textbook as massless.

What is a Photon made of then? Sure, it's energy...but what's that made of?

Also, Gamma Radiation is defined as massless....what about that? :hmmm:

Raptor1 10-31-13 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2135608)
Quantum Physics time....

Ok....

All things are made of matter right? Things that have mass have matter and take up space.

A Photon is defined in my textbook as massless.

What is a Photon made of then? Sure, it's energy...but what's that made of?
A photon is a massless particle, it is in fact made out of energy. Per Einstein's mass-energy equivalence it would probably be more accurate to say that "all things are made of energy" anyway, but that probably has a much better definition somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2135608)
Also, Gamma Radiation is defined as massless....what about that? :hmmm:
Gamma radiation is basically electromagnetic radiation (light) of a certain (very high) frequency range. So that is not terribly surprising.

Also, I'm not really sure this has much to do with quantum mechanics... :hmmm:

Red October1984 10-31-13 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Raptor1 (Post 2135611)
A photon is a massless particle, it is in fact made out of energy. Per Einstein's mass-energy equivalence it would probably be more accurate to say that "all things are made of energy" anyway, but that probably has a much better definition somewhere.
That's what I figured. :hmm2: I'll have to do some more reading.

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Gamma radiation is basically electromagnetic radiation (light) of a certain (very high) frequency range. So that is not terribly surprising.

Also, I'm not really sure this has much to do with quantum mechanics... :hmmm:
It doesn't...but I thought of it halfway through the post and thought i'd ask.

Wolferz 10-31-13 05:56 AM
Get out of the physics pool before you get sun burned.:03::D

Skybird 10-31-13 06:21 AM
You are stepping beyond the border beyond which dualistic thinking makes no more sense. There is a reason why light often is referred to as having a dual nature, being a wave (no particle) and radiation (particle, photon) - you can prove both natures by choosing an according experimental design, it has been done, and repeatedly, so its confirmed. It's crazy, but we have to live with it.
Also mind you that on quantum levels, "particles" no longer are or could be understood as existing entities of something or that quantums are materialistic quantums. A quantum is a certain ammount of something. The term to point out here is "tendency". Meaning the tendency for existing for a given timeframe, or not. Also, "probability clouds". Particles not necessarily exist for sure, but have a tendency to exist only in a given point of space and time. And a quantum also could be described as a (varying!) ammount of tendency for something to exist for a varying ammount of time.

Quiz time: what is that "something"?

It's all crazy down there in the quantums. :) Physicists sometimes say those claiming they have understood quantum physics by that give proof that they have not understood it. You "can not" understand it, not in the way you understand ordinary life in the ordinary world. And even that ordinary life often does not make sense, does it. :haha:

What it all is, in the end? Space. Empty void. Both in the subatomic and the astronomic dimension. Talking metaphysics here, a screen maybe serving as a projection screen for movies of unlimited content and variation. Where nothing is certain and there are no limits, everything is possible: unlimited potential.

That you cannot describe aspects of these things without using the language of abstract mathematics already demonstrates that our ordinary everyday-concepts of thinking do not work well when approaching these things. Best thing would be to leave dualistic thinking and talking behind.

Which maybe implies to leave our humanness behind.

Oberon 10-31-13 06:51 AM
This thread needs some Symphony of Science:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGINaRUEkU

Wolferz 10-31-13 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2135670)
This thread needs some Symphony of Science:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGINaRUEkU
:up:

Naturally, leave it to Hawking to go all techno in that production.:D

Oberon 10-31-13 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolferz (Post 2135786)
:up:

Naturally, leave it to Hawking to go all techno in that production.:D
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9...oxl6o1_500.gif


MC Hawking is another classic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2knWCuzcdJo

Contains strong language.

Madox58 10-31-13 04:45 PM
When are you guys gonna quit doing his homework?
:har:

Red October1984 10-31-13 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2135663)
You are stepping beyond the border beyond which dualistic thinking makes no more sense. There is a reason why light often is referred to as having a dual nature, being a wave (no particle) and radiation (particle, photon) - you can prove both natures by choosing an according experimental design, it has been done, and repeatedly, so its confirmed. It's crazy, but we have to live with it.
Also mind you that on quantum levels, "particles" no longer are or could be understood as existing entities of something or that quantums are materialistic quantums. A quantum is a certain ammount of something. The term to point out here is "tendency". Meaning the tendency for existing for a given timeframe, or not. Also, "probability clouds". Particles not necessarily exist for sure, but have a tendency to exist only in a given point of space and time. And a quantum also could be described as a (varying!) ammount of tendency for something to exist for a varying ammount of time.

Quiz time: what is that "something"?

It's all crazy down there in the quantums. :) Physicists sometimes say those claiming they have understood quantum physics by that give proof that they have not understood it. You "can not" understand it, not in the way you understand ordinary life in the ordinary world. And even that ordinary life often does not make sense, does it. :haha:
Well said. :yeah:

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2135975)
Now shorten this up so RED OCT can UNDERSTAND IT or he'll think I wrote it:har:
Nah...I knew you didn't write it because it didn't have repeatedly varying font sizes and formatting combined with strange made-up words. :O:

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 2135980)
When are you guys gonna quit doing his homework?
:har:
It's not my homework! :har: I swear.

My homework is easier to think about than this.

Now if you guys wanted to do it....

Who am I to object... :O:

Madox58 10-31-13 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2136002)
Nah...I knew you didn't write it because it didn't have repeatedly varying font sizes and formatting combined with strange made-up words. :O:
That has to be the smartest thing I ever saw you post.
:yeah:
(I only say that cause my last infraction has expired)

Madox58 10-31-13 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2136043)
your inert libido
My Wife lies! Just ask my Girlfriend!
:D

Gargamel 10-31-13 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2135608)
All things are made of matter right? Things that have mass have matter and take up space.
No.

Most of the "mass" of the universe is dark energy/matter.

Anti-matter is, by defintition, not matter, but it has mass.

Skybird 10-31-13 08:44 PM
Dark Matter is a theory so far unproven and non-verified. On concludes only that it possibly exists because without it certain other things postulated about the universe are difficult to be explained in conformity with other currently popular theories. There is no direct observation of dark matter reported so far, only gravitational anomalities that get linked to its possible existence. If the theory is true, dark matter may make up for around one quarter of the universe, it is said - how ever that is to be understood.

I personally think that some scientists there try to already distribute the bear's pelt before they have killed it.

Red October1984 10-31-13 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2136043)
It's the strange words that enlarge my 'font' and alter its 'format'...do not use with Viagra or the dualistic thinking of your materialistic quantum will fall below necessary metaphysical standards resulting in an abrogation of your subatomic particulate matter achieving a meaningful astronomic dimension and the event horizon of your inert libido will collapse into a black hole...not of your choosing! or so I thought skybird was getting at...and I didn't make up any of the words; jus' rearranged 'em some!:har:
Well I'm not a complete idiot. :haha:

This post was understandable...

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Originally Posted by Gargamel (Post 2136070)
No.

Most of the "mass" of the universe is dark energy/matter.

Anti-matter is, by defintition, not matter, but it has mass.
Why does my science book lie then? :hmmm: That has to be the REAL question here.

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2136086)
Ya' mean SASQUATCH although ol' Dan'l Boone claimed to'a kilt hissef' a 'YAHOO', said it sho' warn't no ba'ar! and he outta' know fer sure!:huh:
This post.......eh...right... :O:


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