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Jimbuna 09-27-13 02:47 PM

Why are Americans giving up their citizenship?
 
Now this really surprised me...the levels of disillusionment over tax appears to be growing...only small numbers atm but steadily growing.

I wish HMRC would chase the tax dodgers as much as the IRS does.

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The number of Americans giving up their citizenship has rocketed this year - partly, it's thought, because of a new tax law that is frustrating many expats.
Goodbye, US passport.
That's not a concept that Americans contemplate lightly. But it's one that many of them seem to be considering - and acting on.
The number of expatriates renouncing their US citizenship surged in the second quarter of 2013, compared with the same period the year before - 1,131 cases to 189 in 2012. It's still a small proportion of the estimated six million Americans abroad, but it's a significant rise.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24135021

Ducimus 09-27-13 02:55 PM

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1,131 cases to 189 in 2012
Very small number. So small in fact, it leads me to think that there is probably a very specific factor involved. I wonder what tax bracket these folks are in, and what they do for a living. I would guess business executive types that keep most of their assets overseas as it is already.

soopaman2 09-27-13 03:26 PM

Because they are uneducated, upper crust, cowards who have not had any "cash in the game"?

They are usually celebs with enough money to move out with no issues, they do not have any relatives in a cemetary due to wars, friends and family of elites are exempt from service.

That way, they can profit from the death, and denounce it at the same time...


BRING BACK THE DRAFT, NO EXEMPTIONS!

Let's see how war happy we are then.

I am 35 years old with a limp, I will go, anyone else willing? Or is war only cool on TV to you? Ben Affleck...Daniel Craig, Bruce Willis, enlistment time.

Jane Fonda, , time to go Hanoi whore. Crap or get off the pot, loudmouths.

STEED 09-27-13 03:38 PM

The Rich feel there is no need to pay Tax on the grounds they are few in number.

Speaking of the rich, the world's top 1% are estimated to have around £15 Trillion stashed away in secret locations.

AVGWarhawk 09-27-13 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2120143)
The Rich feel there is no need to pay Tax on the grounds they are few in number.

Speaking of the rich, the world's top 1% are estimated to have around £15 Trillion stashed away in secret locations.

I'd tell ya where mine is but I would have to find a new hiding place. :03:

STEED 09-27-13 03:43 PM

:har::up:

soopaman2 09-27-13 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2120144)
I'd tell ya where mine is but I would have to find a new hiding place. :03:

That's easy, where I stash mine, the rectum....


Err right????:timeout:

Just kidding, I dunno. :huh:

Ducimus 09-27-13 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2120139)
Because they are uneducated, upper crust, cowards who have not had any "cash in the game"?

They are usually celebs with enough money to move out with no issues, they do not have any relatives in a cemetary due to wars, friends and family of elites are exempt from service.

That way, they can profit from the death, and denounce it at the same time...


BRING BACK THE DRAFT, NO EXEMPTIONS!

Let's see how war happy we are then.

I am 35 years old with a limp, I will go, anyone else willing? Or is war only cool on TV to you? Ben Affleck...Daniel Craig, Bruce Willis, enlistment time.

Jane Fonda, , time to go Hanoi whore. Crap or get off the pot, loudmouths.

Man, I can't tell if your being sarcastic or genuinely pissed off.

soopaman2 09-27-13 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2120157)
Man, I can't tell if your being sarcastic or genuinely pissed off.

Pissed off, while trying to be kinda amusing about it.

All seriousness I am feeling closer to what Stalin instituted than what George Washington instituted.

I feel dirty and violated, and have a hard time defending American actions to others.


Something is broken with us. It is unfixable IMHO.

Wu tang Clan, rappers had an old term...

C.R.E.A.M

Cash Rules Everything Around Me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erRA6Ib5SZs

(cream get the money, dolla dolla bill yall)

Tribesman 09-27-13 04:38 PM

Quote:

Now this really surprised me...the levels of disillusionment over tax appears to be growing...only small numbers atm but steadily growing.
No taxation without representation.

Ducimus 09-27-13 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2120163)
Pissed off,


Well your not the only one upset over how things are and look to be going to.

This guy pretty much summed everything up in a couple minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dP_z8-WwhU

Wolferz 09-27-13 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 2120175)
Well your not the only one upset over how things are and look to be going to.

This guy pretty much summed everything up in a couple minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dP_z8-WwhU

But, but the government is protecting us from the terrorists. :03::03: nudge, nudge.:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:
They're just not happy unless they're fighting a war of some kind against something. It's the only way the liars and con artists in DC can stay relevant.

Oh. Yeah. Why are Americans giving up their citizenship? Because they can afford to and they don't want to be around when the shtuff hits the fan.

Platapus 09-27-13 06:15 PM

If someone wants to surrender their citizenship because their taxes are too high, good for them. I think we need to encourage anyone who wishes to renounce their citizenship to do so and leave. :yep:

soopaman2 09-27-13 06:56 PM

Yep...

Cuz America is all about shutting up, and doing what someone tells you to do, to pay whatever you are told or GTFO.

Maybe Platypus, you are the problem, and not the dissenters?

Your blind obedience is disgusting to real Americans, the ones who always question why, and never back down.

I am sorry for your condition, but maybe you should leave, as you miss the point of this nation, and its formattion.

Ducimus 09-27-13 07:11 PM

Okay.. time to get out the popcorn.


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