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Crécy 09-17-13 02:33 AM

69th Anniversary of Operation Market Garden
 
Time to remember the largest airborne operation of its time and an ambitious offensive to cross the Rhine to ultimately end the war by Christmas 1944.

Salute to those brave men who participated in the struggle!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...in_Holland.jpg

Dowly 09-17-13 02:38 AM

:salute:

HunterICX 09-17-13 04:07 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWBoMWZJkeI

:salute: To all of those Brave men that took part in this operation.

HunterICX

Red October1984 09-17-13 06:29 AM

Salute to those involved.

:salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:

Jimbuna 09-17-13 10:37 AM

~SALUTE~

http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/...69/savaKp2.jpg

Buddahaid 09-17-13 08:23 PM

We did a BB war with this battle as the theme a few years ago only we changed the name to "Operation Park It Marvin".

August 09-17-13 09:53 PM

Jim did you really post a picture of a movie? :-?

Here are the real folks:

http://www.generals.dk/content/portr...sby_Evelyn.jpg
Brigadier John Vandeleur

http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/etexts/W.../WH2Bar44b.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...F_Sink506e.png
General Robert F. Sink

http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-4...rmel-Heinz.jpg
General Heinz Harmel

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...m_Bittrich.jpg
General Wilhelm Bittrich

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ulian_Cook.jpg
Major Julian Cook




http://www.dobroni.pl/foto_kontent/g...wski_x4699.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...John_Frost.jpg
Major John Frost

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/res...ticleLandscape
Brigadier Hicks, Major-General Urquhart and Lt Gen Browning

http://www.saak.nl/battlefield%20tou...er%20horst.jpg
Kate ter Horst

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s_M._Gavin.jpg
Major General James Gavin


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._D._Taylor.jpg
Major General Maxwell D. Taylor

Red October1984 09-17-13 10:02 PM

I think I might have to play Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway.

Father Goose 09-17-13 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2115934)
Jim did you really post a picture of a movie? :-?

:har:

To the brave heroes :salute:

August 09-17-13 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Father Goose (Post 2115941)
:har:

To the brave heroes :salute:

Acting is harder than the real thing. Just ask Brad Pitt. :yep:

Stealhead 09-17-13 11:37 PM

Market Garden is a good example of a great battle plan that was flawed because it relied to heavily on faulty intelligence assessments.

It was believed that the Germans had mainly low quality troops in the Netherlands and that it was a good place to attack.Well we all know that it did not turn out that way.I have read that Allied high command received decrypted intelligence that crack German units had very recently been placed in the but that intel was not passed down to lower commands.

It proves the advice from the Art of War "appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak" a similar suggestion was "pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance".

August 09-18-13 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2115948)
It proves the advice from the Art of War "appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak" a similar suggestion was "pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance".

There was a German plot to lure the Allies into launching an invasion of Holland? That's news to me.

The Germans were just recovering from their headlong flight across France. Had Market-Garden gone off a week earlier while they were still running, or if the Germans had moved those SS divisions somewhere else to rest and reequip the Allies may well have pulled it off.

Call it what you want, even arrogance in the Allied high command, the fact is the Germans just lucked into being in a position to counter it. No Sun Tsu judo tactics involved.

Buddahaid 09-18-13 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2115934)
Jim did you really post a picture of a movie? :-?

Here are the real folks:

http://www.generals.dk/content/portr...sby_Evelyn.jpg
Brigadier John Vandeleur

http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/etexts/W.../WH2Bar44b.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...F_Sink506e.png
General Robert F. Sink

http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-4...rmel-Heinz.jpg
General Heinz Harmel

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...m_Bittrich.jpg
General Wilhelm Bittrich

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ulian_Cook.jpg
Major Julian Cook




http://www.dobroni.pl/foto_kontent/g...wski_x4699.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...John_Frost.jpg
Major John Frost

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/res...ticleLandscape
Brigadier Hicks, Major-General Urquhart and Lt Gen Browning

http://www.saak.nl/battlefield%20tou...er%20horst.jpg
Kate ter Horst

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s_M._Gavin.jpg
Major General James Gavin


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._D._Taylor.jpg
Major General Maxwell D. Taylor

Thanks for the visual references. It really humanizes it.

BossMark 09-18-13 03:51 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE_CT0n1kqo
:salute::salute::salute::salute:

Jimbuna 09-18-13 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2115934)
Jim did you really post a picture of a movie? :-?

Yeah, why not?

It was a great move and a fitting tribute to those who were really there.


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