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Jimbuna 10-30-12 10:20 AM

Hitachi buys UK nuclear project
 
It just gets worse....first we consider selling off New Scotland Yard and now it's our future nuclear aspirations in domestic energy supplies...how ironic it's from the Germans to the Japanese :doh:

Can't be much left in the cupboard now...surely :hmm2:

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The UK's nuclear expansion plans have been boosted after Japan's Hitachi signed a £700m deal giving it rights to build a new generation of power plants.
Hitachi is to buy Horizon Nuclear Power, which was intending to build reactors on existing sites at Wylfa, Anglesey, and Oldbury, near Bristol.
Hitachi is buying Horizon from Germany's E.On and RWE, which are withdrawing from the UK nuclear market.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20134735

SeaWolf U-57 10-30-12 10:26 AM

OMG where will it all end :nope:

Jimbuna 10-30-12 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaWolf U-57 (Post 1954513)
OMG where will it all end :nope:

Time to join the Euro and get some unlimited bailout funds :)

Herr-Berbunch 10-30-12 10:48 AM

Jobs is jobs. And energy is energy. We should be welcoming the move that creates both. :yep:

Jimbuna 10-30-12 11:01 AM

The question I ponder is...if it's such a surefire win then why don't the government or some large UK energy company make the investment and keep everything 'inhouse'?

Herr-Berbunch 10-30-12 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1954551)
. . . then why don't the government or some large UK energy company make the investment and keep everything 'inhouse'?

Who? EDF - French, Eon - German, Scottish Power - Spanish, Npower - German. That leaves British Gas (Centrica) and Scottish & Southern Electric as the only British companies of the big six. I'd rather it go to an experienced French or Japanese company, since long ago we lost the ability to do it ourselves.

It's still not a done deal as the reactors still need planning and approval.

Jimbuna 10-30-12 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 1954568)
Who? EDF - French, Eon - German, Scottish Power - Spanish, Npower - German. That leaves British Gas (Centrica) and Scottish & Southern Electric as the only British companies of the big six. I'd rather it go to an experienced French or Japanese company, since long ago we lost the ability to do it ourselves.

It's still not a done deal as the reactors still need planning and approval.

I was thinking in terms of a large oil company or nationalisation actually :hmm2:

Nuclear energy could well be our future and it troubles me to see all the eggs in the basket owned by companies with potential foreign interests at heart.

It was the British forces you served in wasn't it? :)

Herr-Berbunch 10-30-12 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1954573)
I was thinking in terms of a large oil company or nationalisation actually :hmm2:

Nuclear energy could well be our future and it troubles me to see all the eggs in the basket owned by companies with potential foreign interests at heart.

It was the British forces you served in wasn't it? :)

Yes, it was. But this country is too far gone to build from scratch with nationalisation or an inexperienced (in nuclear) oil company. We need electricity generated, and we need it soon, so what would effectively amount to an off-the-shelf system from Japan - where no doubt construction of such would be better after recent events - gets my vote. It's not going to be built by them (that'll probably be Italian workers :nope: ) and should provide many, many jobs both short and long term.

Jimbuna 10-30-12 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 1954578)
We need electricity generated, and we need it soon, so what would effectively amount to an off-the-shelf system from Japan -


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But RWE and E.On put the business up for sale in March after Germany's move to abandon nuclear power in the wake of Japan's Fukushima disaster.
Just a little tease :)

Herr-Berbunch 10-30-12 11:40 AM

Oh, Jim - you! :oops:

Platapus 10-30-12 12:23 PM

I wish more foreign countries would come to the United States and build stuff they can't take with them, employ American workers, and pay American taxes.....oh and provide the United States with electrical power? Even better.

UK, I am envious.

Jimbuna 10-30-12 12:44 PM

Problem being...we usually already have the infrastructure in the UK but sell it on to foreign based companies to develop (on occasion) and profit from.

As for taxes, the largest of the companies seldom pay any taxes, they syphon there UK profits off to their headquarters abroad and write off debts they've accumulated elsewhere.

Platapus 10-30-12 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1954635)
Problem being...we usually already have the infrastructure in the UK but sell it on to foreign based companies to develop (on occasion) and profit from.

As for taxes, the largest of the companies seldom pay any taxes, they syphon there UK profits off to their headquarters abroad and write off debts they've accumulated elsewhere.


Unfortunately, same here.... same here. :nope:

Tribesman 10-31-12 04:06 AM

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I wish more foreign countries would come to the United States and build stuff they can't take with them, employ American workers, and pay American taxes.....oh and provide the United States with electrical power? Even better.

UK, I am envious.
Platapus. As Jim already mentioned the foriegn companies not paying any tax and the infrastructure already existing lets add the things they can't take home. In this case decommisionng costs and the storage of waste.


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Can't be much left in the cupboard now...surely :hmm2:
Whatever happened to the plan of selling the national parks to a chinese quarrying company?
Tell George its time to sell sell sell everything maggie didn't give away for a song.

STEED 10-31-12 07:36 AM

UK is up for sale people.


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