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Armistead 09-22-12 09:52 AM

Should we ban blasphemy
 
This issue may have been touch on in one of the " insert here has gone crazy threads", so forgive me if it has been mentioned, but maybe we can discuss it in more detail.

The Prime Minister of Pakistan wants the UN to develop international legislation to outlaw blasphemy. PM Ashraf ordered all internet providers toblock youtube in Pakistan.....all of it.

http://www.pri.org/stories/politics-...emy-11551.html

So if a bunch of nuts feel they can kill other people when you talk about their beliefs or God, should free speech by word and pen be limited. Obama and other leaders often tell us not to mock or talk about Islam. I understand trying to calm Islam, but should we care. There is much concern the upcoming Bin Ladin movie will cause more riots and death around the world.

I see many GOP members and Fox News host are saying the riots are payback because Obama keeps bringing up killing Bin Ladin and offending terrorist, causing them to do terrorist acts...:har:

The good news for the Pakistani men is even though youtube was blocked, they still had access to porn via other sites.

Kloef 09-22-12 10:14 AM

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The good news for the Pakistani men is even though youtube was blocked, they still had access to porn via other sites.
:har:

_dgn_ 09-22-12 10:39 AM

Should we ban blasphemy ?

Yes, naturally !!!

By exemple, for the Christians, Jesus is "Son of God" or "Incarnated God".

Whoever refuses this fundamental principle of the Christian religion makes a blasphemy.

For example, Muslims, who regard Jesus only as a prophet ...

Cheers.

Jimbuna 09-22-12 10:52 AM

Surely the above answer can only be answered by those who 'believe' :hmm2:

August 09-22-12 10:53 AM

I think the better course is not to ban blasphemy but rather consider the worst religion bashing as a form of bullying. They're pretty much the same in form and intent.

Skybird 09-22-12 11:06 AM

Blasphemy is the uneducated believer's and the hierarchical profiteer's way to make opposition to their world view shutting up - by using according laws, or a sword.

So I return the question to the forum, and everybody answers for himself: should blasphemy be banned?

Skybird 09-22-12 11:25 AM

Interview with Salman Rushdie

Quote:

Rushdie: I refused to allow myself to give up my own picture of the world and accept the security picture provided by the police instead. When that happens, you become their creature, and you have to do what they say. I greatly valued the way I was being protected, I understood how important it was, and some of the bodyguards became my friends. But my public campaign and the negotiations with the security personnel were consistently aimed at regaining a normal life.

danlisa 09-22-12 11:35 AM

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Blasphemy is the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for a religious deity or the irreverence towards religious or holy persons or things.
:hmmm:

After considerable deliberation, I have reached a conclusion......

Religious deities can do one! Bunch twaddle anyway........(Caveat; all hail the Cow, can't piss of the Indians etc too much, I like my burgers).

Takeda Shingen 09-22-12 11:39 AM

Oh good, another religion bashing thread. Err, sorry, another Abrahamic religion bashing thread. Eastern faiths always seem to avoid the crosshairs.

Sailor Steve 09-22-12 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1937659)
The Prime Minister of Pakistan wants the UN to develop international legislation to outlaw blasphemy.

:rotfl2:

Here in the US we've already been there and done that. When Thomas Jefferson wrote the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom there were laws on the books of several states making certain religious "crimes" punishable by anything from a day in the stocks to thirty days in jail to death. Most of them weren't being enforced at the time, but could have been. In most civilized countries religious "crimes" are considered to be not worth discussing except as curiousities.

Armistead 09-22-12 12:33 PM

Well, mostly I'm concerned for my own being. For instance if the UN passes this law and I drop a bucket on my toe and say "God damn" will my local police here in North Carolina arrest me if I happen to upset a nearby religious person..

I mean no real offense, but just saying a simple "dern" doesn't release the pain like cursing. I use to say the F word out loud in such instances, but my wife hates when I scream F....

Myself, I attach no morality to words, but I do remember when I was in school, if we said a simple "damn" we got suspended for 3 days.

Buddahaid 09-22-12 12:37 PM

By all means blasphemy should be banned so there is no such thing anywhere, or anyhow in the world. When there is no such thing as blasphemy the middle east will become soft and cuddly like a kitten. :sunny:

Gargamel 09-22-12 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1937696)
Oh good, another religion bashing thread. Err, sorry, another Abrahamic religion bashing thread. Eastern faiths always seem to avoid the crosshairs.

For good reason.

When was the last time you heard of a Shinto burning the bible, or a Buddhist suicide bomber?


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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 1937709)
By all means blasphemy should be banned so there is no such thing anywhere, or anyhow in the world. When there is no such thing as blasphemy the middle east will become soft and cuddly like a kitten. :sunny:

It'll still be a desert. So cuddly like a wet dog.

Takeda Shingen 09-22-12 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel (Post 1937710)
For good reason.

When was the last time you heard of a Shinto burning the bible, or a Buddhist suicide bomber?

And a lot will be solved by trashing it. No, it's just an excuse to take a few flogs at everyone's favorite whipping subject.

sidslotm 09-22-12 01:55 PM

Making laws that ban or forbid people doing or saying is fine, it's upholding the laws that's difficult if people are unwilling to obey. We live by consent and our biggest problem will always be self.

The Muslims have never been able to come to terms with the fact the God told Abraham to throw Ishmael and his mother hagar out of the his camp. Hagar was not Abraham's wife, but servant. God promised Ishmael that his decendents would be too many to count . Its from Ishmael with the arrival of the Prophet Mohammed some hundreds of years later that Islam emerged.

http://niv.scripturetext.com/genesis/16.htm all is reveal here.

Interestingly, the Prophet Mohammed thought it was satan talking to him while hiding in the caves. This is where Mohammed received the revelations about Islam, it was his wife that convinced Mohammed it was God speaking.


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