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mapuc 07-12-12 04:14 PM

What if- A nuclear thought
 
Last night I saw World War two-in colours, last episode.

In this episode that was about the war in the pacific and the use of nuclear weapon against Japan-A thought came up-What if we had devoloped the nuclear weapon before World war 2

1. Would the war have started?
2 If yes, when in the war, would the weapon have been used ?
3 if yes on both point, wich side would use it first ?

I didn't came longer that to number one. Would Germany have attacked Poland if they new that England had nuclear weapon? Or would the relay on the air defence if such an attack would occur?

Markus

Takeda Shingen 07-12-12 04:25 PM

If the Second World War was a nuclear one, I don't know who would have dropped the first bomb. Somebody would have done it eventually, and so London would probably look like this today:

http://creativefan.com/files/2010/12...14-500x312.jpg

And Tokyo:

http://www.pinktentacle.com/images/neo_ruins_3.jpg

Moscow:

http://xaxor.com/images/other/111199...ons_640_02.jpg

Neal on his way to work:

http://kloipy.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/madmax.jpg


Me on my way to work:

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/im...634774-000.jpg

Glad it didn't turn out that way.

Onkel Neal 07-12-12 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1908765)





Neal on his way to work:

http://kloipy.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/madmax.jpg



Glad it didn't turn out that way.

Me too, look what the radiation did to me! Well, at least Mel Gibson is there to keep me safe.


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TLAM Strike 07-13-12 12:50 AM

Both sides in Europe didn't use Chem/Bio weapons because of the threat of mutual retaliation.

Japan refused to use them on the US because of the same. (can't be said about them an China).

I don't think they would have been eager to use them, and by the time they were desperate enough to try delivery would have been highly difficult if not impossible. (and I discount use of missiles as delivery systems because of the limited payload of the V2 at the time.)

Codz 07-13-12 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1908843)
Me too, look what the radiation did to me! Well, at least Mel Gibson is there to keep me safe.


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I was laughing for a good five minutes at that.:har:

gimpy117 07-13-12 01:48 AM

nobody wins WW3

Codz 07-13-12 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpy117 (Post 1908874)
nobody wins WW3


If it's nuclear. If it were conventional, it might have victors.

BossMark 07-13-12 02:16 AM

Well lets put it like this just before things started to go bad for Adolf an he got pissed off maybe he would have pushed the button first before he topped himself :hmmm:

Catfish 07-13-12 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1908843)
Me too, look what the radiation did to me! Well, at least Mel Gibson is there to keep me safe.

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

Dive! Dive! Dive! 07-13-12 08:24 AM

Depends who has nukes. Everyone or just a few nations?

TLAM Strike 07-13-12 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpy117 (Post 1908874)
nobody wins WW3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codz (Post 1908877)
If it's nuclear. If it were conventional, it might have victors.

Nukes are not some kind of silver bullet, there delivery methods are quite conventional. There was a reason we built 32,000 of the things (and its not that Russia was a big country). We did not expect a large number to make it to their targets.

We have had ABM systems since the 1960s. ASATs were deployed in the USAF a year after Sputnik.

The "Star Wars" weapons of Reagan's era were very nearly a reality.

The reason these were not developed was political.

With the threat of a real nuclear war working countermeasures could quickly be deployed (not counting an "out of the blue" type of attack by the guy with a single bomb).

If we are talking about a WWII with nuclear weapons than both sides would have some kind of countermeasures already. If one side has ballistic missiles, the other side would be developing ABMs. If one side has high altitude bombers than the other side would be developing interceptors or SAMs, boomers; hunter-killers and so on.

Dive! Dive! Dive! 07-13-12 09:56 AM

It depends what we are talking about nuke-wise. I am not sure about missile delivered nukes as WW2 era missiles would be unreliable in a nuke war. Nukes dropped from bombers would probably be the main form of delivery.

mapuc 07-13-12 01:33 PM

Just to clear things out-Both side have nuclear weapons and both side have developed rocket(V2)

Markus

MH 07-13-12 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 1909177)
Just to clear things out-Both side have nuclear weapons and both side have developed rocket(V2)

Markus

Vould be vonderful:D

Oberon 07-13-12 03:19 PM

MEIN FUHRER! I CAN WALK!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdRo7okHCAc&feature=fvst


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