Syria Shoots Down Turkish Fighter
 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85L0PZ20120622

Interesting :hmmm:

There is also reports that a Syrian jet defected to Jordan.

It would be interesting to see what Russia does if NATO does get directly involved.

Condemn strongly, make lots of noise, maybe show some muscles, write long winded letters about the moral decadence of other nations, rant about human rights and make some little annoying "Ha! Take that!" gestures on some more obscure and less important matter to have a little payback. Much like it usually works in international relations. Or a sandbox, for that matter.

Edit: I forgot the most important and obvious one. Praise self, of course.

Oh Snap, Turkey has been angry at Syria since day one of this mess, this could be the turning factor if Turkey decides to directly intervene.

Whether NATO would actually follow through if Turkey invited it is another matter, some nations probably would, but many I think would just commit a token force.

Heard on danish radio, that Russia would not hesitate to give Syria advanced ground-to-air system. If NATO is carrying out its threat to intervene in Syria.

So its going to be very interesting on what's really going to happen if NATO carries out its threats


Markus

Nothing will happen.

This is the most likely of things. :yep: Still, an interesting, and some might say inevitable, occurrence.

If Turkey 'directly intervenes' I can see Russia making a lot of political noise but nothing more because NATO and or the US would have no other option than to become physically involved in response to what the west would see as Russian aggression.

My own assessment: still a storm in a tea cup.

So far this questionable incident is least of a reason to intervene if anyone really wanted to get involved openly in this mess.
I think Russians are doing favor for all involved...and they still take the blame as the bad guys.

I hope they will find some kind of solution to the current problems down there so it does not turn into a bloody full-scale civil war

and if it happens, I hope that the rest of the world stay away and not stick its nose into this wasp's nest.


I for one are not interested in a war-like situation in which Syria on the one side, getting military support from Russia and and perhaps China, fighting, the Syrian opposition that is probably supported by NATO and perhaps U.S.A

I hope for the best but are prepared for the worst.

Markus

I don't see this leading to anything b/c the F-4 was apparently in Syrian airspace anyways (and with everything going on, it would make zero sense for Syria to attack Turkey without provocation, so we can assume the early reports are correct in that regard).

The more interesting question to me is, why was the Turkish Phantom there---snooping around? Testing air defense response?

I believe this is already being considered a civil war.

The Turks have the RF-4E so it might have been a recon mission. :yep:

EDIT: Defense Tech says it was an RF-4E
http://defensetech.org/2012/06/22/tu...wn-near-syria/