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Oberon 03-11-12 08:49 AM

Rogue Soldier kills Afghan civilians
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17330205


First thoughts?

Bugger.

Second thoughts?

My Lai Mk II

This will not do much for tensions in Afghanistan after the Qu'ran burning incident. :damn:

Hottentot 03-11-12 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1853483)
First thoughts?

Bugger.

Mine: a perfectly good head on his shoulders and he didn't manage to hit it. Provided that this goes like the press so far has covered it.

Torplexed 03-11-12 09:28 AM

This incident has been a double tragedy. Obviously, the deaths of innocents, but also the mental breakdown of a soldier. I wouldn't call it a "My Lai" as it was a lone wolf crazy following his own deranged orders, but it may not matter.

After the urinating incident, and the Koran burning incident we are in position where profuse (and desperate sounding) apologies from afar don't cut it anymore...if they ever did. :nope:

Schroeder 03-11-12 10:04 AM

Oh boy, here we'll go again....:damn:

Don't hands out weapons to mentally unstable people.:damn::damn:

Dowly 03-11-12 10:09 AM

:nope:

Skybird 03-11-12 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1853522)
Oh boy, here we'll go again....:damn:

Don't hands out weapons to mentally unstable people.:damn::damn:

Everybody has his breaking point. EVERYBODY. For some it is more upwards on the scale, for others it is somewhere lower. Expose any man long enough to war, and he finds his sooner or later.

This guy just found his.

Onkel Neal 03-11-12 11:24 AM

Turn him over to the Afghan legal system.

Gargamel 03-11-12 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1853568)
Turn him over to the Afghan legal system.

Normally, I'd say let the military courts handle this. But no this time. This needs to be handled by the locals for multiple reasons. Their closure and international relations just to name a couple.

Torplexed 03-11-12 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel (Post 1853571)
Normally, I'd say let the military courts handle this. But no this time. This needs to be handled by the locals for multiple reasons. Their closure and international relations just to name a couple.

They simply can't do it. Recruiting would likely plummet like a rock if we started the precedent of handing our wayward soldiers over to local justice, no matter the crime.

Onkel Neal 03-11-12 11:36 AM

Possibly true, we should try it and see.

Jimbuna 03-11-12 12:47 PM

I'm beginning to think relations are so low they'll never recover now.

Skybird 03-11-12 12:49 PM

There is no clear info at this time. Was this a monkey trying to have "fun", a retarded bastard? Then hand him over to the locals. But early reports said he had a nervous breakdown, and his psyche was/is instabile. It is a reasonable guess to assume that this may be the results form mhaving seen too much, havingm lived in war conditions, stress, and having fear for too long. In this case, do not hand him over, but practice the military'S laws on him.

The negative consequences in Afghanistan should not be pointed out that much. Relations are already that bad, in cannot get any worse, I would say.

u crank 03-11-12 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1853613)
I'm beginning to think relations are so low they'll never recover now.

Sad but probably true. It's a no win situation and hard to imagine any good outcome. To bad.

Sailor Steve 03-11-12 01:04 PM

I was agreeing with Neal's comment until I read Skybird's comment. What is the correct course of action in a case like this? I have no idea.

Then I read u-crank's comment, and I'm reminded of Walt Kelly's Pogo, and his twist on a famous military statement: "We have met the enemy, and he is us."

STEED 03-11-12 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1853613)
I'm beginning to think relations are so low they'll never recover now.

Best thing get out fast.


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