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elmusul 03-06-12 04:05 PM

It is possible to attack on surface?
 
I've read that this was the normal tactic to attack a convoy.
The submarines were waiting for the night and them attacked on the surface, using their speed and preventing the escorts to use the ASDIC...
In SH5 I can approach to the convoy without being seen on a dark night (using the dynamic environment mod)
...but with the impact of the first torpedo ... yaaa. everyone starts to shoot at me!:down:
Has anyone tried it?
How do you manage to scape undetected?

Stormfly 03-06-12 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmusul (Post 1850819)
I've read that this was the normal tactic to attack a convoy.
The submarines were waiting for the night and them attacked on the surface, using their speed and preventing the escorts to use the ASDIC...
In SH5 I can approach to the convoy without being seen on a dark night (using the dynamic environment mod)
...but with the impact of the first torpedo ... yaaa. everyone starts to shoot at me!:down:
Has anyone tried it?
How do you manage to scape undetected?

while on approach, i make shure not beeing to fast, maybe only half ahead, depends on the situation (enemy passive sonar). then i mostly fire a salvo and turn away, showing my stern, sometimes iam far enough away before the first impact happens, depends on weather and visbility conditions and enemy skill.

Michael13 03-07-12 02:03 AM

I did it sometimes in fog (when I can see ships only from 500-600 meters and they can't see me at all) or in 39 year on unescorted convoy. Else they just find you with flares and spotlights.
When normally, as I read, merchant ships didn't have spotlights and flares, so only escort could try to find u-boat on surface.

ttriarsi5689 03-07-12 08:51 PM

Night Attack
 
Figure out the heading of the convoy, then navigate a few km ahead of them, where they are going to be, and about 1000-2000 meters out at an adjacent angle on the convoy (distance depending on escorts), then sit and wait, with decks awash and engines off for them to come to you. Once your torpedo's are out, don't wait until they hit. Then just creep away from the convoy in the opposite direction than they are going, so if the escorts do acquire you then going the opposite direction will draw them away from the convoy fastest, so hopefully they will break the attack so they can stay with the convoy. Personally I don't mess with a convoy with more than a couple escorts.

Hartmann 03-09-12 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmusul (Post 1850819)
I've read that this was the normal tactic to attack a convoy.
The submarines were waiting for the night and them attacked on the surface, using their speed and preventing the escorts to use the ASDIC...
In SH5 I can approach to the convoy without being seen on a dark night (using the dynamic environment mod)
...but with the impact of the first torpedo ... yaaa. everyone starts to shoot at me!:down:
Has anyone tried it?
How do you manage to scape undetected?

I used this tactic a lot with sh3 with a IX boat, using it speed and power to run to the convoy at deck awash, firing a salvo and turning away before the first impacts alert the scorts. Also it´s important change your position after firing .

elmusul 03-12-12 05:04 AM

thanks for your answers ...
This weekend I tried a couple of tactics against a heavily escorted convoy
I think the safest thing is to shoot from more than 2000m and escape at full speed ... and the most effective is getting too close (600m) and dive immediately after shooting ... thus can not miss the shot ...

anyway I do not like either of these tactics, so I'll have to keep trying ...:hmmm:


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