![]() |
China warns US on Asia military strategy
Looks like cuts in the military, similar but larger in size to those the UK have already had whilst maintaining a quality effectiveness should the requirement to act become a reality.
The Chinese don't appear all that concerned....simply biding their time I should imagine. Quote:
|
I'd say China's blatant bullying of its neighbors, causing them to come to us and ask for help, is creating plenty of "ill will" and "endangering peace."
I'd like to see Japan change its constitution to allow a real military, then the US give them Kitty Hawk... I'm sure the Chinese would *love* that. |
Quote:
We've been here before. The Carter years wreaked havoc on military size and readiness. The Reagan administration reversed that dangerous trend. I believe somewhere soon down the road, we will have no choice but to reverse the action taken by the current administration. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
My view on the current administration is that about 98% of what they do is wrong.
So when they get something RIGHT - I do my best to say so. This is a very good move. Our military has always been geared to fight major ground conflicts on 2 fronts. Its were we found ourselves in WWII, and the overall focused never changed. Its why we were able to successfully keep deterrent forces in place throughout the world while still fighting conflicts that absorbed significantly more manpower and treasure than we though in 2 countries. But the reality is that this policy has been what has caused us to become the self-appointed "world police". When a country has the forces to exert, it is much more apt to exert them. Even the Art of War teaches this. It is a path (one of many) to ruin. Asia will be the focal point for some time in geopolitics due to perceived economic strength (which is a house of cards in many ways - but I digress). The middle east is a focus for one reason - energy. Asia is a focus for both energy and economics. As resources dwindle in the middle east, as further energy sources are found and used, the focus changes. We need to be able to start preparing for what the future may hold. Its important to realize that this isn't gutting the ground game. Its simply letting it no longer be the major game in town. For all the "defense" hawks that scream about military cuts - yes we will spend less. But we are also not going to be fighting 2 wars - so we don't need to spend as much. Those same hawks would yell if every conflict ended today and we cut a single dime because of it. Its important to note - we as a country have to shift our priorities and our way of thinking when it comes to fiscal policy. NO program, no entitlement, and no special interest - including military spending (which is driven for contractors primarily) should be off the table. We will all share in the sacrifice - and nothing should be untouchable to right the ship. Just the view of someone that spend 8 years in a funny green suit, and never wants to go to the middle east again - unless its to Israel for a visit. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
I agree that in conflict "boots in ground" won't work. "Quantity has quality of its own" as Uncle Joe said and in plain numbers anything but sending every able american to China you are not going to win ground engagement. What I'm really worried about is U.S. Navy and Air Force capability to counter chinese capabilities in long term. Here are two things which trouble me most:
1. Littoral Combat Ship (which I tend to call Littoral Combat Joke). It has very little own weapons and was supposed to get its firepower from weapon modules. Problem: module projects have been cancelled. 1 57 mm gun, single RAM or Sea-Ram missile launcher, few autocannons and machineguns and ofcourse helos. With that weapons layout its not very survivable in my opinion and in price of one american LCS (or LCJ which ever you prefer) China can build two much more heavily armed frigates. 2. F-35 Lightning II. Wonderful aircraft (atleast in paper) but will it be affordable? If you cannot buy it in large enough numbers you have a big problem. These are my two most serious worries in U.S. military. What are your opinions? |
Quote:
That honour now goes to Manchester City. j/k :03: I'll get my coat. |
we spend a ludicrous amount on our military, it's almost like the cold war never ended. it has allowed us to maintain total military dominance, but at the same time has cost vast amounts. personally, Losing that influence allowed by our military will be a bummer, but it will make us work with the rest of the world more....and somehow i feel harmony trumps strong arm politics
|
Quote:
Maybe we should charge them for the protection we provide, maybe we should mind our own business, but there is no denying that our actions as the world police have benefited the west immensely. |
Quote:
Besides, you think the defence budget is being cut now, if the US went into 'mind its own business' mode, then the defence budget would be slashed to pieces because there would be no reason to have such a big budget. The war industry would be scaled back too, which means when you wind up getting involved in the next big war then you'll have to reactivate that industry, which'll take time, which you might not have. I don't think any of us can really afford to be truly isolationist anymore, the world is simply too small for that. |
Quote:
We've been trying to get Japan to take a more active role in checking China, but we sort of shot ourselves in the foot by putting pacifist clauses in their constitution during the occupation. Now they like those clauses and don't want to change them, but they still rely on us to help them with China. Europe is starting to take on a policing role, but they still had a lot of trouble in Libya. One problem though is when you have more than one group acting as the police, you're more likely to have them clash with each other. It's a very fine line between empire building and policing. |
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:28 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.