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Gerald 09-08-11 01:59 PM

In Immigrant Areas, a Culture Clash Over Gay Marriage
 
Molly Blooms, a Victorian-accented Irish bar in Sunnyside, Queens, recently raffled off a free same-sex wedding reception, with a three-hour open bar, a D.J., a photographer and a horse-drawn gilded carriage to deliver the winning couple to the festivities. The bar’s owner thought the idea would be good for business and for the largely working-class and immigrant neighborhood.

But some in the community disagreed.

Neighbors said they would boycott the bar. Bloggers posted reports of past health violations there. Larry Yang, the Korean-American owner of a hardware store next door, said he resented such a public promotion of same-sex marriage. He said many among the large number of Korean-American Christians in Queens felt similarly but feared that if they spoke out they would be demonized by a liberal majority.

“If that horse-drawn carriage rides by my store, I will make sure my kids do not see it,” Mr. Yang, 45, said. “I am worried about what kind of message gay marriage is sending.”

The legalization of same-sex marriage in New York State has been embraced by many in the city. But in some neighborhoods heavily populated by immigrants from countries where homosexuality is less accepted, the idea is stirring feelings of unease or, at times, outright disgust.

Sunnyside has been transformed in recent decades, first by immigration, and more recently by urban professionals priced out of Manhattan. As in some other parts of the city, same-sex marriage has laid bare the clash between the social conservatism of many immigrants and the values of the often wealthier and more liberal newcomers to the neighborhood.

Many immigrants in Sunnyside are Muslims from Turkey, where the military, the guardian of the country’s secular state, regards homosexuality as a disorder. On a recent day on 46th Street, a group of men hunched over Turkish newspapers next to a mosque in a part of the neighborhood that includes kebab shops, a Jewish community center, a Romanian restaurant and a Russian hairdresser.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/08/ny...e&ref=nyregion


Note: September 7, 2011

Jimbuna 09-08-11 02:03 PM

A marker :hmmm:

Gerald 09-08-11 02:17 PM

Could be...

AVGWarhawk 09-08-11 02:55 PM

There is an old saying, "Can't make everyone happy all the time."

ZeeWolf 09-08-11 03:09 PM

I know the solution for this depravity! :D

:arrgh!:

mookiemookie 09-08-11 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1745809)
Many immigrants in Sunnyside are Muslims from Turkey, where the military, the guardian of the country’s secular state, regards homosexuality as a disorder.

Tough. This isn't Turkey, this is America where it isn't, so they can just get over it.

August 09-08-11 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1745889)
Tough. This isn't Turkey, this is America where it isn't, so they can just get over it.

It's not Seoul, or Bucharest or Moscow either, but they have a right to their opinions just like you do. You can't legislate people likes or dislikes.

ZeeWolf 09-08-11 03:29 PM

Anyway, "tolerance" with this kind of degenerate depravity is only temporary.
America is awakening, especially with us Christians.
Multi-cultural Diversity is as communist as you can possibly get. This federal
mandated to destroy White Christian America has been exposed for what it is
- finally! :up:
Those decent, moral and Christian "LEGAL" immigrants want no part of the
revenge campaign of wealth redistribution and demonizing the White race as
mass murdering ex-slave masters who lost there right of sovereign self-governing.
As a White Christian Heterosexual, I clearly see this assault
on White Christian America - and I do not like it.

AVGWarhawk 09-08-11 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 1745898)
It's not Seoul, or Bucharest or Moscow either, but they have a right to their opinions just like you do. You can't legislate people likes or dislikes.


Good point!

Tchocky 09-08-11 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf (Post 1745907)
Anyway, "tolerance" with this kind of degenerate depravity is only temporary.
America is awakening, especially with us Christians.

You call yourself a Christian while saying things like this? You have a mighty interesting definition.

Quote:

This federal
mandated to destroy White Christian America has been exposed for what it is
- finally! :up:
You're missing a noun and a boatload of decency.

Quote:

As a White Christian Heterosexual, I clearly see this assault
on White Christian America - and I do not like it.
More of an Old Testament fan then.

TLAM Strike 09-08-11 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf (Post 1745907)
Multi-cultural Diversity is as communist as you can possibly get.

Could someone point me in the direction of a Communist state where cultural diversity is encouraged?

razark 09-08-11 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf (Post 1745907)
Those decent, moral and Christian ...

"Many immigrants in Sunnyside are Muslims from Turkey..."

Interesting.

mookiemookie 09-08-11 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 1745898)
It's not Seoul, or Bucharest or Moscow either, but they have a right to their opinions just like you do. You can't legislate people likes or dislikes.

Isn't it usually those on the right that are big advocates of immigrants assimilating into their new culture?

MH 09-08-11 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1745942)
Isn't it usually those on the right that are big advocates of immigrants assimilating into their new culture?

Isn't a culture an outcome of vast different views among other things.

mookiemookie 09-08-11 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MH (Post 1745945)
Isn't a culture an outcome of vast different views among other things.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say your culture sucks if it's based around hate and intolerance of others.


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