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Feuer Frei! 08-17-11 05:56 AM

More states considering pay-by-the-mile Car Taxes
 
The age of free driving could be coming to an end. With the advent of GPS navigation that electronically tracks how far you drive, more states are looking at charging drivers by the mile.
Oregon, for instance, is among several states that are taking a hard look at the idea, reports Paul Eisenstein of the Detroit Bureau. As proposed in the Oregon legislature, drivers could be charged 0.85 cents per mile through 2015, with the figure jumping to 1.85 cents per mile by 2018. The bill, for the moment, appears stalled. Texas and Minnesota are reportedly also taking a look.


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mookiemookie 08-17-11 06:49 AM

The same technology that tracks how far you drive can easily be used to track where you drive. They don't need to know that. :shifty:

August 08-17-11 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1729793)
The same technology that tracks how far you drive can easily be used to track where you drive. They don't need to know that. :shifty:

I don't think they need to bother with that as mileage is recorded on the annual vehicle inspection.

Growler 08-17-11 08:41 AM

August, some states don't perform annual inspections, but that doesn't really matter, either.

In Maryland, all drivers on vehicles not otherwise waived (historic, or above a certain age, mostly) participate in the Vehicle Emissions Inspection Program (VEIP) every other year, meaning two years between tests. Mileage is recorded at that time. For taxation purposes, it would not be a great stretch to take the last two VEIP mileage readings, average them, and bill half annually as tax.

If they're going to tax driving miles, those funds should be solely for maintenance of road infrastructure, though; city/state-based mass transit could perhaps benefit as well, both with increased ridership (people don't want another tax burden) and some financial benefit from the tax itself. What I wouldn't want to see is that mileage tax going into, say, a new stadium project. But when have we ever enjoyed having a direct say in the employment of our taxes?

AVGWarhawk 08-17-11 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1729815)
I don't think they need to bother with that as mileage is recorded on the annual vehicle inspection.


Not all state require annual inspection.


This is a crap tax and cash grab. The car is taxed for sale, gas, registration. When is enough enough? People already stay home when gas is high. Now they will stay home permanently with this tax. Therefore, the idiots with this idea will lose on the gas tax for lack of purchase and mile tax for lack of driving.

The government is simply stupid. I chalk this up as being stupid as the Window Tax. :doh:

AVGWarhawk 08-17-11 08:47 AM

Quote:

If they're going to tax driving miles, those funds should be solely for maintenance of road infrastructure, though; city/state-based mass transit could perhaps benefit as well, both with increased ridership (people don't want another tax burden) and some financial benefit from the tax itself. What I wouldn't want to see is that mileage tax going into, say, a new stadium project. But when have we ever enjoyed having a direct say in the employment of our taxes?
:har::har::har:

That's rich! O'Malley will raid it like a beer store on Superbowl day! You know as will as I the money would be funneled to some crap in the State of Confusion (Maryland).

So, $1.85/mile at my 100 miles/week at 52 weeks per year is $9250.00 in mile tax. Why not just put a gun to my head and pull my wallet out? No, wait, they already do that!

August 08-17-11 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Growler (Post 1729875)
August, some states don't perform annual inspections, but that doesn't really matter, either.

In Maryland, all drivers on vehicles not otherwise waived (historic, or above a certain age, mostly) participate in the Vehicle Emissions Inspection Program (VEIP) every other year, meaning two years between tests. Mileage is recorded at that time. For taxation purposes, it would not be a great stretch to take the last two VEIP mileage readings, average them, and bill half annually as tax.

That's what I figured. It'd be a far less irritating way of bringing this about than forcing people to purchase special tracking equipment for their vehicles.

Rockstar 08-17-11 09:14 AM

Doens't bother me at all, I walk or bicycle most everywhere. I haven't owned a car in 5 years.

Feuer Frei! 08-17-11 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 1729898)
Doens't bother me at all, I walk or bicycle most everywhere. I haven't owned a car in 5 years.

I'm sure the esteemed Government will find a way. They don't like loop holes. :O:

August 08-17-11 09:24 AM

They can institute a bicycle tax if they want. Doesn't bother me at all, I haven't ridden a bicycle in, ... well more than 5 years! :D

AVGWarhawk 08-17-11 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 1729898)
Doens't bother me at all, I walk or bicycle most everywhere. I haven't owned a car in 5 years.


That's great but... It is however unfortunate that our government with the assistance of ourselves were sold on urban sprawl. The American dream in the suburbs!!!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy the good life outside the city. Own you own home. As we know it folks worked in the cities and required transportation in the form of a car. Now they want to tax on the mileage?

.85/cent/mile will not fly. I think this proposal is way off base.

AVGWarhawk 08-17-11 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1729905)
They can institute a bicycle tax if they want. Doesn't bother me at all, I haven't ridden a bicycle in, ... well more than 5 years! :D


:har:

Sounds like a plan. Hell, the bike is using the road correct? See at the tax assessors office. :D

August 08-17-11 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1729908)
:har:

Sounds like a plan. Hell, the bike is using the road correct? See at the tax assessors office. :D

They should institute a spandex tax. That would really get the bicyclists angry! :DL

Growler 08-17-11 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1729881)
:har::har::har:

That's rich! O'Malley will raid it like a beer store on Superbowl day! You know as will as I the money would be funneled to some crap in the State of Confusion (Maryland).

So, $1.85/mile at my 100 miles/week at 52 weeks per year is $9250.00 in mile tax. Why not just put a gun to my head and pull my wallet out? No, wait, they already do that!

LOL in re: part 1.

I read it as 1 point 85 cents (less than two cents), not one dollar eighty five cents, but either way, I get you.

AVGWarhawk 08-17-11 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Growler (Post 1729912)
LOL in re: part 1.

I read it as 1 point 85 cents (less than two cents), not one dollar eighty five cents, but either way, I get you.


Any .whatever cent is outrageous! :DL


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