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BossMark 07-31-11 06:45 AM

I hate Elco\Motor Torpedo boats
 
God how I hate these pesky annoying things, they are impossible to torpedo and very hard to hit with deck\flak guns before they damage your boat.:stare:
Anyone else find these annoying.

Gerald 07-31-11 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 1717391)
God how I hate these pesky annoying things, they are impossible to torpedo and very hard to hit with deck\flak guns before they damage your boat.:stare:
Anyone else find these annoying.

True, it is best to dive to avoid a hole in the hull, :yep:

VONHARRIS 07-31-11 08:36 AM

Correct.
Those little annoying boats can be very dangerous if you engage them on the surface but they are harmless if you are submerged. They lack any ASW equipment or weapons.
Just dive and let them pass. They are not worth a torpedo either.

Jimbuna 07-31-11 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 1717391)
God how I hate these pesky annoying things, they are impossible to torpedo and very hard to hit with deck\flak guns before they damage your boat.:stare:
Anyone else find these annoying.

I think you'll find they have a far greater tendency to obliterate your deck and bridge crews first....in testing we (GWX) found you could literally run out of crew replacements from the automatic cannons before the boat took serious damage levels.

yubba 07-31-11 12:22 PM

I'm surprised that they didn't add torpedo attacks to the AI of the pts, that would be really annoying and more reallistic.

Jimbuna 07-31-11 01:54 PM

It has been done way back IIRC but the eels travelled at a minimum speed of 125 knots which was a tad unrealistic :DL

BossMark 07-31-11 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 1717633)
I'm surprised that they didn't add torpedo attacks to the AI of the pts, that would be really annoying and more reallistic.

Dont put ideas into those great modders heads :D

Jimbuna 07-31-11 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 1717680)
Dont put ideas into those great modders heads :D

Well it's beaten everybody up till now...one person did manage to have invisible shells replace eels mind you (Sergbuto or Rubini).

Fish In The Water 07-31-11 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BossMark (Post 1717391)
Anyone else find these annoying.

Kind of like pesky mosquitoes buzzing along on the surface...

Too small to worry about and not big enough to be worth the effort. My basic rule of thumb is circumvent or dive until they buzz off. :DL

Sailor Steve 07-31-11 05:55 PM

And the funniest part is that the Royal Navy didn't have on single PT boat manufactured by ELCO, and the ones they did have (Vosper) didn't look anything like the ELCOs.

But even then they're not something you should mess with. Small, fast, hard to hit and pretty deadly in return. Also, u-boats and MTBs didn't usually operate in the same waters. You shouldn't see any unless in coastal waters or the Channel.

Jimbuna 07-31-11 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1717833)
And the funniest part is that the Royal Navy didn't have on single PT boat manufactured by ELCO, and the ones they did have (Vosper) didn't look anything like the ELCOs.

But even then they're not something you should mess with. Small, fast, hard to hit and pretty deadly in return. Also, u-boats and MTBs didn't usually operate in the same waters. You shouldn't see any unless in coastal waters or the Channel.

Conversely the same can't be said of German E-boats and British submarines.....my late father used to often remind me of the times he saw them trading punches off the Dogger Bank as the Brtitish Submarines were returning to their eastern shoreline bases.

maillemaker 08-01-11 03:24 PM

I have sunk them, but they will render your boat useless for further action. They are not worth engaging.

Missing Name 08-01-11 06:35 PM

Attacking these is suicidal in my books. On the other hand, torpedoing them is a sight to see...

Perhaps we should add depth charge racks in place of the after tubes...?
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/...img/PT-p37.jpg

Admiral Von Gerlach 08-01-11 06:56 PM

The MTB Flotillas of the Inshore Squadrons indeed were tough nuts to crack, they and the E boats dueled nightly and a lot of lead and blood was shed....also tru the British MTBs were toally different and a million times superior ot the flimsy Elco Throw away boats.... the Vospers were tough and well designed but not any way the equal of the superb E Boats...those Schnellboats were amazing and tne envy of other navies. I still hope to have a go with them in one of the SH series, i think there is a S boat mod about but i havent had time to try it yet.

Sailor Steve 08-01-11 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Von Gerlach (Post 1718525)
...also tru the British MTBs were toally different and a million times superior ot the flimsy Elco Throw away boats...

Interesting comment considering they were both made of the same plywood-on-mahogany construction. Do you have any facts to back up that insult?


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