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Gerald 07-11-11 02:22 PM

Is Sex Passé?
 
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WHAT could be more eternal than sexuality? The fog of longing, the obsession with the loved one’s voice, smell, touch. Sex is discombobulating and distracting, it makes you immune to money, politics and family. And sometimes I think the younger generation wants to give it up.

People always ask me what happened to sex since “Fear of Flying.” While editing an anthology of women’s sexual writing called “Sugar in My Bowl” last year, I was fascinated to see, among younger women, a nostalgia for ’50s-era attitudes toward sexuality. The older writers in my anthology are raunchier than the younger writers. The younger writers are obsessed with motherhood and monogamy.

It makes sense. Daughters always want to be different from their mothers. If their mothers discovered free sex, then they want to rediscover monogamy. My daughter, Molly Jong-Fast, who is in her mid-30s, wrote an essay called “They Had Sex So I Didn’t Have To.” Her friend Julie Klam wrote “Let’s Not Talk About Sex.” The novelist Elisa Albert said: “Sex is overexposed. It needs to take a vacation, turn off its phone, get off the grid.” Meg Wolitzer, author of “The Uncoupling,” a fictional retelling of “Lysistrata,” described “a kind of background chatter about women losing interest in sex.” Min Jin Lee, a contributor to the anthology, suggested that “for cosmopolitan singles, sex with intimacy appears to be neither the norm nor the objective.”

Generalizing about cultural trends is tricky, but everywhere there are signs that sex has lost its frisson of freedom. Is sex less piquant when it is not forbidden? Sex itself may not be dead, but it seems sexual passion is on life support.

The Internet obliges by offering simulated sex without intimacy, without identity and without fear of infection. Risky behavior can be devoid of risk — unless of course you use your real name and are an elected official.

Not only did we fail to corrupt our daughters, but we gave them a sterile way to have sex, electronically. Clearly the lure of Internet sex is the lack of involvement. We want to keep the chaos of sex trapped in a device we think we can control.

Just as the watchword of my generation was freedom, that of my daughter’s generation seems to be control. Is this just the predictable swing of the pendulum or a new passion for order in an ever more chaotic world? A little of both. We idealized open marriage; our daughters are back to idealizing monogamy. We were unable to extinguish the lust for propriety.

Punishing the sexual woman is a hoary, antique meme found from “Jane Eyre” to “The Scarlet Letter” to “Sex and the City,” where the lustiest woman ended up with breast cancer. Sex for women is dangerous. Sex for women leads to madness in attics, cancer and death by fire. Better to soul cycle and write cookbooks. Better to give up men and sleep with one’s children. Better to wear one’s baby in a man-distancing sling and breast-feed at all hours so your mate knows your breasts don’t belong to him. Our current orgy of multiple maternity does indeed leave little room for sexuality. With children in your bed, is there any space for sexual passion? The question lingers in the air, unanswered.

Does this mean there are no sexual taboos left? Not really. Sex between older people is the new unmentionable, the thing that makes our kids yell, “Ewww — gross!” You won’t find many movies or TV shows about 70-year-olds falling in love, though they may be doing it in real life.

The backlash against sex has lasted longer than the sexual revolution itself. Both birth control and abortion are under attack in many states. Women’s health care is considered expendable in budgetary negotiations. And the right wing only wants to champion unborn children. (Those already born are presumed able to fend for themselves.)

Lust for control fuels our current obsession with the deficit, our rejection of passion, our undoing of women’s rights. How far will we go in destroying women’s equality before a new generation of feminists wakes up? This time we hope those feminists will be of both genders and that men will understand how much equality benefits them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/op...me&ref=general


Note: July 9, 2011

the_tyrant 07-11-11 02:33 PM

:wah::wah:

Well Vendor, at least you enjoyed it when it was plentiful

Growler 07-11-11 02:37 PM

I wouldn't worry too much about sex until it's as common on American (broadcast, not cable) TV as violence.

Osmium Steele 07-11-11 02:41 PM

Ah yes, the insular world of the New York liberal.

"How could George Bush have won? I don't know anyone who voted for him?"

Betonov 07-11-11 02:42 PM

sex, what is this sex people always talk about. Is it like playing chess ??

Gerald 07-11-11 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_tyrant (Post 1702228)
:wah::wah:

Well Vendor, at least you enjoyed it when it was plentiful

The whole world is full of girls, it is said :DL

frau kaleun 07-11-11 02:48 PM

OMG the wimmins be havin' not enough sexytime! Or they be havin' too much sexytime! Or not enough partners! Or too many partners! Or not enough bebbehs! Or too many bebbehs! WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

In the end it doesn't matter, since part of being a female human being is knowing that no matter what choice you make, it will still be wrong.

Sailor Steve 07-11-11 02:50 PM

LULZ. I'm a male-type person, and everything I do is wrong. Ask anybody, especially the womenfolk I've known. :O:

krashkart 07-11-11 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 1702239)
sex, what is this sex people always talk about. Is it like playing chess ??

It's the German word for the number six. :know:

Jimbuna 07-11-11 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1702253)
LULZ. I'm a male-type person, and everything I do is wrong. Ask anybody, especially the womenfolk I've known. :O:

We must have or have known the same women :o

Gerald 07-11-11 03:51 PM

Make a toast...:()1:

Alex 07-11-11 06:06 PM

All things considered, the fact that people appear not to make any difference any more between internet and real life **** wise makes much sense.
Planetary survival must depend, in fine, on the extinction of man, conceivably, on control of the birth rate.

Keep going, young people.

Anthony W. 07-11-11 06:39 PM

Sex isn't dead for men. Commitment is.

Sex for women of the teenage generation is the new commitment. One girl I know (age 14) said "As long as I put out, he's with me, not someone else"

But that man in question (age 16) said "The longer she puts out, the easier it is to leave."

Gerald 07-11-11 07:07 PM

These expressions can easily be said of the young ages, but as experience increases, it becomes a different tone in any discussion.

GoldenRivet 07-11-11 07:53 PM

Not a chance.

I've been so oversexed the past 4 weeks im shootin' powder over here.

Passé?

LULZ






dont tell my wife


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