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Alpha Von Burg 06-17-11 03:59 AM

XXI question...
 
Just wondering if the type XXI u-boat is really worth saving up for.

Because from what I know, the type XXI comes out towards the near end of the war and that their effectiveness was highly limited because of this.
Hence, they sunk less, if not non of the Allied ships at all.

I just thought that because it is so late, is it really still worth it, in terms of sinking merchants and getting back alive?

Food for thought...

Gerald 06-17-11 04:47 AM

I think that even if time is passing, but it began in late 1942, so whether you feel like it, :yep:

Alpha Von Burg 06-17-11 05:00 AM

Ah, my mistake on the date.

Gerald 06-17-11 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha Von Burg (Post 1685764)
Ah, my mistake on the date.

No, no mistake on your part, your boat is not at times before April 1944, I just said earlier, it became harder to hunt, at an earlier stage in the war, :yep:

Jimbuna 06-17-11 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha Von Burg (Post 1685746)
Just wondering if the type XXI u-boat is really worth saving up for.

Because from what I know, the type XXI comes out towards the near end of the war and that their effectiveness was highly limited because of this.
Hence, they sunk less, if not non of the Allied ships at all.

I just thought that because it is so late, is it really still worth it, in terms of sinking merchants and getting back alive?

Food for thought...

In RL U-2511 (1 patrol) and U-3008 (1 patrol) were the only Type XXIs to go on war patrols, and both failed to sink any ships.

Playing the game with SH3 Commander and unchecking the historical U-boat availability dates means you can get one from 11th Flotilla as early as April 44.

There is a mod that allows you access to a Type XXI in September 39:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1357

My own personal choice is to use my Type XXIII mod which replaces the Type XXI because the patrols are shorter and there were obviously a lot more Type XXIII completed and sent on patrol during the war.

Fish In The Water 06-17-11 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1685806)
There is a mod that allows you access to a Type XXI in September 39:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1357

Makes for a fun patrol to take her out for a spin in '39... :yep:

Jimbuna 06-17-11 02:48 PM

Not very historically accurate but....whatever floats your boat.

maillemaker 06-17-11 03:15 PM

Or sinks them... :)

Jimbuna 06-17-11 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maillemaker (Post 1686033)
Or sinks them... :)

Whatever :DL

Missing Name 06-17-11 05:28 PM

I like the idea of a XXI, but I'm not happy that it only has bow tubes. That's why I also don't like II's.

Alpha Von Burg 06-18-11 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1685806)
In RL U-2511 (1 patrol) and U-3008 (1 patrol) were the only Type XXIs to go on war patrols, and both failed to sink any ships.

Playing the game with SH3 Commander and unchecking the historical U-boat availability dates means you can get one from 11th Flotilla as early as April 44.

There is a mod that allows you access to a Type XXI in September 39:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1357

My own personal choice is to use my Type XXIII mod which replaces the Type XXI because the patrols are shorter and there were obviously a lot more Type XXIII completed and sent on patrol during the war.

I have used this mod before, the one which make the XXI available in 1939. It was fun, being Silent Death in the North Sea and the Atlantic. Sunk HMS Nelson about 3 time in the first 3 patrol using it.

It was great, then I got a bit bored and decided to go back to the realism.

BTW, where can download the Type XXIII mod.

Snestorm 06-18-11 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha Von Burg (Post 1686278)
I have used this mod before, the one which make the XXI available in 1939. It was fun, being Silent Death in the North Sea and the Atlantic. Sunk HMS Nelson about 3 time in the first 3 patrol using it.

It was great, then I got a bit bored and decided to go back to the realism.

BTW, where can download the Type XXIII mod.

It's not a mod.
Tis a Jimbuna Due It Yourselfer.

Jimbuna 06-18-11 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha Von Burg (Post 1686278)

BTW, where can download the Type XXIII mod.

It is available from my FF page (link above my sig).

http://www.gamefront.com/files/14171521/XXIII_GWX3_7z

Installing this mod means you will not have the Type XXI because the Type XXIII takes that submarine slot in the programme.

Fish In The Water 06-18-11 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1686022)
Not very historically accurate but....whatever floats your boat.

Just something different to try... Never stuck with it for long, but it does freshen things up a bit. :yep:

Snestorm 06-18-11 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1686350)
It is available from my FF page (link above my sig).

http://www.gamefront.com/files/14171521/XXIII_GWX3_7z

Installing this mod means you will not have the Type XXI because the Type XXIII takes that submarine slot in the programme.

Oops. You did make it into a mod.
My last stands corrected.


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