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Gerald 06-16-11 06:12 AM

Dark corners of the net
 
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Hackers have come a long way since teenagers made code in their bedrooms.

Hackers are secretive, but they are also social. Many spend their spare time in chat rooms and forums discussing their latest targets, techniques and conquests. Eavesdropping on those conversations offers a fascinating insight into their motives.

Say hacker to someone and they are likely to trot out the usual aged clichés - geek, loner, bedroom-bound teenager.

Philosopher is unlikely to feature high on the list. But it seems the modern-day hacker spends a lot of time contemplating the meaning of life.

"Each has a philosophy and they want to discuss it," says Noa Bar Yosef.

She ought to know. Her job with security firm Imperva involves hanging around in hacker forums trying to work out what motivates them.

It is a murky, idiosyncratic world where Ms Yosef admits she spends far too much time.

In one group she visits, members discuss the best reading matter for would-be thinkers.

"Start with Kierkegaard, then Nietzsche and after you've read Nietzsche, Sartre is the most logical choice".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13605629

Note: 16 June 2011 Last updated at 00:59 GMT

AVGWarhawk 06-16-11 07:58 AM

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what motivates them.

Something I will never understand.

Gerald 06-16-11 08:05 AM

Probably a question that no one can answer, :yep:

NeonSamurai 06-16-11 08:18 AM

Lulz and boredom mostly. Sometimes its motivated by political or ethical views, but usually its lulz and boredom. They also usually have seriously inflated egos online, generally to match their minuscule egos offline. Many also like to pretend they are really smart, most are not.

Also there are not that many real hackers out there. Most of these guys are script kiddies, and with out the tools written by real hackers, couldn't hack their way out of a paper bag.

the_tyrant 06-16-11 08:25 AM

the reporter does not know her thing
its a picture of trollforum.com for heavens sake

Herr-Berbunch 06-16-11 08:28 AM

Quote:

Say SH3 to someone and they are likely to trot out the usual aged clichés - geek, loner, bedroom-bound middle-aged man.
:har:

Onkel Neal 06-16-11 11:44 AM

Vendor, don't know where you get your news, but I love it. :yeah: Very intersting read.

Jimbuna 06-16-11 12:01 PM

BBC News usually, or one of the sub-sections.

A good site for early news releases.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

kiwi_2005 06-16-11 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1685172)
Something I will never understand.

What motivates them?

Motivated by power, getting away with it, adrenaline rush, there 15min of fame, who knows.:hmmm: With Sony why they hacked them is based on because Sony security was so lame - customers passwords were not encryted to the hacker for this lameness - in their minds Sony deserved to be hacked. So Sony gets hacked not once but twice!

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There appears to be a commonality of 'power' for hackers. The solving of 'puzzles' and the 'see what I can do' attitude is most apparent. By talking to 'wannabees' and individuals who have hacked, the 'power' of finding exploits and 'showing' the 'bigger' entity how they are not secure is the most outstanding trait you will find in these people. There doesn't appear to be a criminological theory or 'true' understanding 'why' they hack. The motivation of hackers will always be a mystery.




Gerald 06-16-11 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1685317)
BBC News usually, or one of the sub-sections.

A good site for early news releases.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

Well informed, I hear :DL

Ducimus 06-16-11 01:33 PM

Dark corners of the internet is why i've had a paycheck for the last 11 years. :haha:

Gerald 06-16-11 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1685302)
Vendor, don't know where you get your news, but I love it. :yeah: Very intersting read.

Thanks Neal,:DL

Jimbuna 06-16-11 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1685366)
Well informed, I hear :DL

Your maybe preaching to the informed.

Gerald 06-16-11 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1685524)
Your maybe preaching to the informed.

Hmmm ... it can be interpreted in several ways.

Madox58 06-16-11 08:47 PM

Anything posted about Hackers is mostly distorted depending on who wants a rave review for thier post.
Most people don't even know the true history nor will dig deep enuff to find it.

Hacking was once an Honerable pass time with a set of rules We followed.
The number one rule was:
Do no damage, leave no trace.

Now that has been corrupted by what We called Crackers back then.
I go back to the early '80's late '70's on this thing We call the InterNet.
Many I talked to back then read like a Who's Who list.
And I have changed my online ID for many reasons over the years.
:03:


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