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BigRich 04-29-11 08:24 PM

My Biggest Enemy
 
Is not the enemy escorts but bad weather.

frau kaleun 04-29-11 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRich (Post 1653498)
Is not the enemy escorts but bad weather.

This was often the case in real life. I saw an interview once where veterans from both sides were talking about how many times they'd see an enemy ship and knew very well that enemy could see them but nobody even tried to engage... because the weather was too bad to do anything and mostly they were all just trying to keep themselves in one piece and not much else mattered.

FIREWALL 04-29-11 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun (Post 1653523)
This was often the case in real life. I saw an interview once where veterans from both sides were talking about how many times they'd see an enemy ship and knew very well that enemy could see them but nobody even tried to engage... because the weather was too bad to do anything and mostly they were all just trying to keep themselves in one piece and not much else mattered.

I think it was in Iron Coffins that in a winter storm near Iceland, that they said a simular same thing.

And alot of ships in the convoy were sunk by the storm.

Possibly a Murmansk convoy ?

Fish In The Water 04-29-11 11:57 PM

It certainly can put a damper on things...

From a realism point of view, the elements are a big part of the challenge. But it can get awfully frustrating when you start feeling like you're fighting with one hand (or at least one deck gun) tied behind your back. :damn:

Bakkels 04-30-11 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish In The Water (Post 1653556)
It certainly can put a damper on things...

From a realism point of view, the elements are a big part of the challenge. But it can get awfully frustrating when you start feeling like you're fighting with one hand (or at least one deck gun) tied behind your back. :damn:

Especially when you're early in the war, you intercept a convoy, you take down the two escorts to finish off the remaining convoy with your torpedoes and deck gun..... and then it starts to rain and the wind picks up and you can't use your deck gun anymore :nope: Happens quite frequently to me. Really frustrating. But it's all part of the game...

King_Zog 04-30-11 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1653663)
Especially when you're early in the war, you intercept a convoy, you take down the two escorts to finish off the remaining convoy with your torpedoes and deck gun..... and then it starts to rain and the wind picks up and you can't use your deck gun anymore :nope: Happens quite frequently to me. Really frustrating. But it's all part of the game...

If you find it frustrating you could use a mod like 'all weather deck guns'. Then you can decide for yourself if it is 'too windy' to man the guns.

Personally bad weather used to really annoy me, especially when I was learning SH3 for the first time. But now aslong as the visibility isn't zero I'm fine with it. As I'm pretty sure it helps conceal you from escorts, and I like the atmosphere created by the seemingly constant raging storms, when I play SH4 I miss them.

Bakkels 04-30-11 08:38 AM

I know, I tried it on one patrol, but it felt too much like cheating to me ;)
Frustrations are also part of a sim game of course. Now everytime I shadow a (badly protected) convoy, I cross my fingers for the weather to remain good. It kinda adds to the tension.

King_Zog 04-30-11 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1653696)
I know, I tried it on one patrol, but it felt too much like cheating to me ;)
Frustrations are also part of a sim game of course. Now everytime I shadow a (badly protected) convoy, I cross my fingers for the weather to remain good. It kinda adds to the tension.

Yeah, it is kinda annoying when you find those very early war convoys full of fat unarmed merchants with only one rookie destroyer protecting them :cool:

Torplexed 04-30-11 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRich (Post 1653498)
Is not the enemy escorts but bad weather.

Easier to stomach than the situation in the Pacific where for the first two years the greatest enemy is the Bureau of Ordinance, which is providing you with defective torpedoes and then blaming you for it's shortcomings. :D

Missing Name 04-30-11 10:51 AM

If only they modeled effects like this:
http://www.uboataces.com/images/deck_gun_artic.jpg

It would certainly add to the realism.

Fish In The Water 04-30-11 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Missing Name (Post 1653741)

Now that would be a bit of a stretch, even for all-weather guns! :O:

frau kaleun 04-30-11 09:39 PM

Or maybe the Royal Navy has a new secret weapon...

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/p.../mr-freeze.jpg


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