What happened to kids these days?
 

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,4629043.story

to gang up on a kid, shoot him 3 times etc. etc...what did he do to them?

this just in...the motive :nope::nope:

I guess stuff like this has been happening regardless of the time, but kids do seem to be crueler This generation of kids seem so much more immature than my generation, obese and lazy, more apt to live at home into their 20's. No doubt they're desensitized with all the violence they watch to a degree.

In the end it comes down to parents, many today are friends and let kids do as they please.

My guess is the next generation will revert to the farm age if they want to eat.

In general, I hate kids...:O:

Hey, It's the economy :stare:

Comming home and trashing your child with a belt because you had a bad day or giving your kid a slap because he was mouthing off back at you. One is violence and one is teaching your kid who's the boss. I know which is which, everyone at subsim knows which is which, but the social services say that both are violence and it is bad for the childs development. Yes I see what pyschopat I have become because my father gave a slab around the ears when I was a brat and my father is also a menace to society with a honest job, no police record and his disquisting ability too keep quiet when necessary all because his father took him to the sheed once in a while. What violent maniacs my ancestors were, I'm surprised we're still alive. And our mothers, my my, if my dad hit me I'd run crying to mommy and she gave me another slap for making a racket.
Our hands are tied because we are supposed to talk to our children. To become friends with them, equals. It's like these children psychologists don't even know how a child thinks. Children are selfish, egocentric and how not yet learned how actions can come back to haunt you in a long run. I know I was. How am I supposed to talk to someone like that.

Well Betonov, you've put it better than I ever could and I have tried many times to present the same argument. You are right, there is a difference between beating a child up because not everything is right in your head and giving him a lesson. People are animals, children more so, as they do not have the knowledge of the causality of their actions. I'm not saying every single thing needs to be beaten in, far from it, the more they can learn peacefully, the better. Yet there are times, when only the hand/stick/belt talks and I'll be damned if I'll let anyone dictate what I can and cannot do. You wish to raise my child? Be my guest, come and take him and bother me no more! (This last was a gross exaggeration, I would never give up my own child, it was merely a presentation of principle).

Oh, and God forbid teachers can say or do anything to a child, or the parent's will have the headmaster barking at them in no time. Nowadays, the school system is supposed to both raise and educate them, but God forbid they try any of those two things. It was bad when I was growing up, luckily had my parents taking an interest in the well-being of their child. I wanted for nothing, but knew it was because I worked hard at school. Today, if the prevalent mentality seems to be "Give them what they want and they'll leave us alone for a while". So, in the end, it is the economy which is partly to blame also in this regard, as parents seem to be forced to waste their time surviving, rather than bringing up the next generation. Which begs the question, how did they manage when they had to work for more than 8 hours a day and had no or very little free time or holidays to take care of things? How did they manage indeed?

"These days?". I thought deadly revenge for insulting, let along hitting, a lady was considered the most chivalrous obligation for centuries :dead:

Modern Western Society is protecting our children to death.

even in the day, tricking a kid into a trap, and then ganging up on him with 2 other guys would be dishonor. they used to do things as men.

http://content.artofmanliness.com/up...10/03/duel.jpg

Yea, when we were kids we walked the line, our butts were open season to parents, teachers, relative, etc... I was never abused, got some good whoops from some. Now my Dad, when he spanked he did use a belt and whooped the fire out of us. Line all us kids up and await your turn. I got several I didn't deserve, but missed out on several I did. I certainly think some spanking was overdone in my generation, but it didn't ruin us.

I think kids are being taught at school that spanking is abuse and to call the cops if a parent hits today.

Spare the rod and spoil the child.

Wow, those mugshots are something else! Look at those faces! :haha: I doubt one could find a more genetically challenged bunch of backwood inbreds.

Except maybe for our royal family. :hmmm:

Or as the local wisdom goes: "if they have done something bad, beat them. If they haven't done anything bad, beat them anyway because they must be planning something."

It can be difficult to find the middleground but I agree with the earlier posts. The hysteria has gone too far and the results can be seen in some sad cases. They might be minority, yes. The worst I ever got from my parents was stern conversation, yet I haven't ever had an urge to do anything like what we get to see news these days. But I still think the option should be there for the parents to use. When it's the teachers in schools that are afraid to go there, you know something is wrong in the society.

I think spankings are needed when children are at a young age, pops on the butt at age 2 to some whoops around age 5. When a mind can't reason why something is bad, minor pain brings understanding with the word no.....like, don't stick your finger in a outlet.

I spanked my son maybe twice before age 8. A stern talking usually made him fall into tears. My daughter, you could spank her and she would look at you like...that didn't hurt, grounding her worked much better.

Say nice twice... didnt work, say sternly twice... didnt work, hit once.

But you got to use the right force. Should be very unpleasant, a stinging feeling, not that much pain. You slap'em, not hit them with a fist. But you shouldn't damage the child, we want to teach them something, not show them the other side.

The best raised children will be those, who have both parents thinking like this. So the child doesn't go: I'll report you to social services, since both will deny having hit the child. And a slap leaves no marks.

True true, in every class there's some idiot who wont stop bothering everyone and no-one can do anything about it. I know if a teacher hits my child, I'll go there and ask what happened and if it was justified I'll go home and slap him/her myself.

Never felt the back of my fathers hand so I'll consider myself 'spoilt' :DL

Ask someone who's stood downwind if you're "spoilt." :D