Holocaust Museum Washington DC
 

Yesterday at the request of my youngest daughter who has studied the Holocaust at her school, we paid a visit to the Holocaust Museum Washington DC. I was impressed with the presentation the museum created. It was very sobering and humbling. We came away with much more information on the Holocaust than we had known before the visit. If you get the opportunity to make a visit I highly recommend you do.

Thanks for the recommendation AVG. :up:

That was literally the last museum my mother ever visited.

Question: is it really appropriate to have it in the United States, though? Germany, Israel, or Poland I could see, by the U.S.?

I believe there are many Jewish people in the states, so why not having a museum there as well? It's not like everybody from the states gets to Europe once in a while.

They are building one in Phoenix, Arizona too.

Did the tour include information on the other genocides of the century? Was half of the museum dedicated to the 6 million non-Jews who were also killed in the concentration camps?

Yeah, I thought not. I've already been there, and I saw what they chose to memorialize. Holocaust museum my ass. If it were really a memorial dedicated to the idea of "never again" it would be a lot more comprehensive. It would include the genocide of the Armenians and the Slavs and the Ukrainians and the Rwandans and the Somalis and the Cambodians and the Christians and the Muslims and so on and so forth. But that isn't really its purpose. It's just some crap thrown up by people with enough political influence to commemorate their own suffering, but not that of anyone else.

Even worse, prominent members of the Jewish community have long spoken against the invasion of Iraq, a country in which at least 80,000 Kurds were systematically exterminated, by conservative estimates.

They can take their memorial and shove it up their ass as far as I'm concerned. It is clear that they don't give a s*** about other victims of genocide and are concerned only with themselves, at taxpayer expense. Screw them, and screw their BS memorial. I'll start remembering their suffering as soon as they start actively pursuing an anti-genocide agenda.

While it may be true to some extent you should remember that that genocide was executed only on Jews for them being Jews.
Slavs and other eastern European peoples ended up in exterminations camps for resisting occupation.
Westerners enjoyed quite good life even as POWs
Kurds and Israelis have closer ties than you might know.

wow Really?

Ask the Jewish lady who survived the camps as a little girl. She took our tickets to enter the exhibit. There are plenty of folks I had known as a kid that survived the camps. I remember seeing the tattoos on the arms adminsiterd at the camps. Many US service men and women died in the ETO. This gives some good reason why a family member died in the war. It was not in vain.

Glad you asked. The exhibit included ALL involved. Mentally/physically handicapped, Catholics, homosexual, black, diseased. The end exhibit concerned Rwanda and the genocide occuring there right now. So yes, the museum was all encompassing.


Think again. Go to the website and look.


You are a bit hasty in your assumption. Visit the museum and the site.


http://www.ushmm.org/

Quote:

Genocide Emergency – Darfur, Sudan: Who Will Survive Today? A display of photographs and extensive resource materials documenting the 2003-2005 genocide in the Darfur region of Sudan.

As far as I'm concerned, yes it should be in the U.S, Canada, Germany, France, UK, Poland, Russia, etc, etc

(If you don't remember, the U.S turned away a boat full of Jews coming from Germany, and sadly so did Canada.. North America needs to remember they were part of the atrocities that played out in Europe.)

I can see the aim of memorializing the people that died. But the idea is bigger than that. As the worst modern genocide, (to my knowledge... someone correct me if I'm wrong) the aim of these museums is to make people remember so it doesn't happen again.

You see these people in the news and on the world stage saying "Nope that didn't happen, they're lying. They're Jews they just want attention".

Say that to the survivors and their families.

As a highschooler, it was a mandatory thing that we had to make the trip over the border to Detroit to the Holocaust museum to see the exhibit and hear from a survivor. The man we saw was 8 years old when he was taken from his home in Poland. He is the only survivor of a family home comprising himself, is father, mother, grandmother, two sisters and twin brothers (of whose fate he hopes ended quickly). The camp he ended up in? Auschwitz initially, when he was transferred to Treblinka and worked as a sondercommando. Until the camp was moved again and he ended up in Sachsenhausen (sp).

He ended his sermon saying that he cannot sleep in the same room as his wife, because upon waking up, he remembers the guards beating him to get out of bed. Saying he remembers daily atrocities that would turn your stomach. This man died two years ago now, may he rest in peace.

The whole point of these museums is to keep the awareness in the publics mind. Not on the Jewish horrors, but on genocide as a whole.

Comments such as

just make me scratch my head sometimes and wonder what the hell is wrong with us.

Directly from the site:

As if any of the other concentration camp victims were executed for anything other than being Slavs or homosexuals or political opponents.

I know. That's part of my argument.

And? How does this, in any way, prove the point you are trying to make?

I didn't say anything about Israelis. I only said that prominent Jewish figures had ignored other genocides.

Yeah, really.

Was it? I'll ask again, was half of the museum devoted to the other 6 million victims of the holocaust? I saw the token exhibits they placed to placed in "honor" of the other victims of the holocaust. I was not impressed.

I am more unimpressed by the actions of the Jewish community in the war against Islamic extremism, then and now. If there were any justice in this world there would be an army of Jews vehemently defending intervention in countries where a genocide has taken place, but there never has been.

I'm not impressed some American Jews myself.
Maybe its because American Jews are AMERICAN-diverse peaple.

Jews are the enemies of Islam.
Jews hate Muslims.
Jews genocide Palestinians.
Jews don't fight radical Islam.......??????????
What else?

Ahh Jews want to take over the world and create global government.

A few days ago i heard from a Palestinian guy that Monica Levinsky was an Israeli spy-is it true?

The museum has displays of various religions, races, abnormalities...basically anyone and everyone that was killed in the Holocaust. There was not any 'token' exhibits. How much do you need other than a picture of a Catholic priest waiting on his turn for execution? Do we need his Bible and perhaps a pew from his church. What do we need for an exhibit of the mentally/physcially handicapped that were euthanized or gassed? The exhibit on homosexuals and gypsie...how much do you need? The museum encompassed all involved. It would seem you simply refuse to see that.


I'm unimpressed with every community. They all suck as a whole. So whats the difference?

Then either I am missing something or you are. For the time being, I'll cede the point, though remain dissatisfied with the measures the Jewish community has taken to exhibit the holocaust while doing comparatively little to prevent its re-occurence.


Idealism. Consistency of idealism. Proper idealism. The hope for something better. I'm not going to delve into existential debate here, but I'd be happy to discuss it via PM.

What would like the Jewish community to do? What Jewish community in what country to be exact?