One done really well, or many done relatively well?
 

Considering the "sterling" success of Silent Hunter 5, this would seem like an incredibly stupid question. However, that game deals with Uboats, which is an entirely different scene altogether.

The only reason i think this is even a plausible question in the Pacific theater is because the iconic Fleet Submarine is 6 bow tubes, 4 stern tubes, propeller guard, and look outs in the periscope sheers. Any submarine that doesn't have that, (at least in my opinion) is simply an earlier design evolution, because all boats, ultimately serve the same purpose. That of the Fleet submarine. Originally envisioned as a scout for the fleet, but later used as a long range attack submarine in the largest ocean in the world. ( As opposed to Uboats that had submarines built for different purposes)

Anyway, i'm curious to see how the community feels about the concept of "One boat done really well". As opposed to "many boats done fairly well." as applied to fleet submarines.

( Sometimes i think i get a good idea, but really i might as well be smoking crack. That's what i'm trying to find out here. :shifty: )

edit:
The obvious third choice of "Max detail and max choices" intentionally omitted because I cannot deliver that. The second choice has already been delivered, its the first choice thats the hairbrained idea.

I can see the appeal of "One boat done really well". It's been the goal of many fight sims. Model one aircraft, visually and performance-wise, and let the player fly that.

The submarine war in the Pacific, however, doesn't fit into that mold, in my opinion.

As you said, earlier boats were "simply an earlier design evolution" (although, I'm not sure how well that holds for the S-boats), but the constantly improving fleet boat was a very important part of the submarine war in the Pacific. The war began with the earlier boats, some of them very old and outdated, not prepared to fight the kind of war they were being thrown into. As the war progressed, newer design features entered service, with the experience of the older boats directly influencing the newer, and the older boats themselves being modified to keep up. This stream of upgrades and refits adds very much to the feel of a Pacific subsim. Every boat had a part to play in the campaign, so every boat deserves a place in a sim.


That said, if one were to go for the "One boat done really well", I suppose a well done Gato would be the class that would make sense to see done.

A well done Gato would suit me very well, I seldom get to the later part of the war as that Ducimus guy always comes up with a new version of TMO so I gotta start all over again. :haha: :yeah: :yeah:

Not much sense in doing the early boats as you lost them pretty quickly.
You can use a Gato till the end without problem.

Magic

Poll
 

I know that feeling. If it's not Ducimus, it's one of the other fine modders here.

They may not have been the most beautiful gals at the dance, but they stayed for the party:
In addition, some of the old S-boats were running war patrols into 1944.

Hmmm?
 

You put 'em in the water and i will try to sail 'em.

I'll just leave the link to something i figured out tonight here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=10
It might change a few minds, or it might not. *shrug* Figured you outta know either way.

I think having only 1 boat could really help with the immersion factor.
It will really be your boat and your crew. No longer just any boat.
IRL captains where also proud on their boats stating it was the best even if it was an old rust bucket.
Though it would be nice if you could have the option to choose the type of boat at the beginning of the campaign. And after that it would be your boat for the war.

Only one boat? Reminds too much of the old Nintendo Silent Service. Although fun, operating a Balao Class boat in December 1941 is just wrong.

Who ever said you would get a Balao ? Or even start in 41 ? :O:

Though I can imagine it being a hard question to answer if you don`t know what you will get by going for 1 sub , but you do know (or think you know) what you will give up.
Maybe if it could be made more clear what is to gain by going for one ship people will be more inclined to go for that.
Though I can understand if that is still not 100% known at this point.

While, of course, I want the best of all worlds and I want it now and for no cost. :D

I voted for the one boat modeled very well. I am the type of player that is primarily interested in the simulation of the submarine operations. I would love to have a submarine simulator where I, the player, could occupy the key stations and really run then a accurately as possible in a computer game. For instance, I have always wanted more in depth simulation of the hydrophone and sonar capabilities.

So for the purposes of this poll, put me down for the better "one" instead of the ok "more".

But since you mentioned SH5 in this context, I would like to comment on that.

While I am also less than thrilled with SH5, I believe that it is important to evaluate SH5 on what it intended to be.

In my opinion, SH5 is not a submarine simulator as I consider a submarine simulator (based on what I posted above). SH5 is a submarine commander simulator. There is a big difference and one is not better than the other. They are two different implementations of what a simulator is.

It is my opinion that SH5 had the right goal, but their implementation was off. This is why I can't fairly compare SH5 with SH3 (or SH4 for that matter). SH3/4 are submarine simulators and SH5 is a submarine commander simulation.

If SH5 were "fixed", it still would be a different game from SH3. Some, like me, like the more submarine simulator games but others may like the commander simulator game concept.

:hmmm:

Poll results thus far are sorta what i expected.

(Has anyone figured out, i only post polls when i'm up to something? )

I liked the multiple boat done fairly well option. If I get a boat with all the bells and whistles this takes away from the satisfaction of achieving the next boat or the next piece of equipment. To me, the loss of achievable goals other than fulfilling an objective takes away from the game.

How many times have you "retired" from modding and said "Never again!"?

Fairly well
 

Fairly well suits me as it's always good to have historical options. Getting the refits to work correctly would be fantastic. I'm getting a bit annoyed with accepting a new command and "losing" my surface search radar and not being able to "purchase" it and install it again.
It's my perception that the only way I'll hang on to my "acquired" kit such as SJ radar is to keep the same boat throughout the war if possible.