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Gerald 02-08-11 09:14 AM

Indonesia: Angry Muslim crowd attacks Java churches
 
More than 1,000 Muslim protesters have stormed a courthouse and burned two churches in central Java, Indonesia.

The attacks in Temanggung happened after a Christian man was sentenced to five years in jail for distributing leaflets deemed insulting to Islam.

Indonesian police said the crowd considered the sentence too lenient and were demanding the death penalty.

The incident came two days after Muslim villagers in western Java killed three members of a minority Islamic sect.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12393075

Note: 8 February 2011 Last updated at 12:21 GMT

joegrundman 02-08-11 09:27 AM

you know i was just thinking - what we need in this world is more angry muslim crowds. Hooray for the religion of peace:woot:

Gerald 02-08-11 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman (Post 1593115)
you know i was just thinking - what we need in this world is more angry muslim crowds. Hooray for the religion of peace:woot:

I understand exactly how you thought, :yep:

the_tyrant 02-08-11 09:48 AM

Castout might be in trouble....

Rockstar 02-08-11 09:53 AM

No No No this act is because of government oppression. Remember tolerance and kindness begets tolerance and kindness. Give it more time and keep telling yourself "we'll all be singin' kumbaya any moment now", "we'll all be singin' kumbaya any moment now" Keep those happy thoughts a flowin' :yeah:

Skybird 02-08-11 10:23 AM

Three days a go, a huge Coptian cathedral in Rafah, Egypt , was stomed by a mob, robbed, people beaten up, too, and in the end it got set ablaze.

If you do some intentional background research, then you will quickly see that this kind of stuff is happening in the Muslim world week in, week out. Our media cover most of it not. 2009 and 2010 had been found by conting incidents and victims to have been especially dedicated highlights in the constant persuction of Christainbs and Jews in the Muslim world.

But in Germany, some person was denied return nto public office service, at a reception or a counter, because when it retruned from holidays it insisted on wearing an all covering burkha. Big scnadal! News messages n every media! Some left politicians spitting venom over it!

That in 2010 more Christians needed to flee from Muslim countries or from violent persecution than ever b efore in the past 50 years, and that more Christioans than ever before in these 50 had been slain by Muslim lynch mobs from Asia over the Middle East to North Africa, got noted only in some small and tiny lines here and there - if it got commented on at all. I heared more professors and Islam experts assuring the camera that Islam is a peaceful relgion and that we should not create artifical obstacles to it by calling Muslim terror as what it is: Muslim terror.

Weiss Pinguin 02-08-11 11:58 AM

^ the Religion of Peace hard at work :yep:

AVGWarhawk 02-08-11 12:42 PM

Fun lov'in bunch they are! :yeah:

Tribesman 02-08-11 01:12 PM

So is this the same 1000 strong mob that burned down the mosque and killed the muslims?

Rockstar 02-08-11 03:42 PM

Everyone from dictators to religious groups think they do God service. Peace loving christians have had their crusade. Hitler thought he was just finishing up where christians left off and now it's the muslims turn. 'cept I think this one is eventually going world wide.

Skybird 02-08-11 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 1593418)
Everyone from dictators to religious groups think they do God service. Peace loving christians have had their crusade. Hitler thought he was just finishing up where christians left off and now it's the muslims turn. 'cept I think this one is eventually going world wide.

Isn't it that already by claim, and almost that by deed? I mean it is integral part of the ideologic agenda. Muhammad said participation is mandatory for Muhameddan males. No wonder - he did not need an army of deserters, did he.

bookworm_020 02-08-11 07:36 PM

This is, unfortunately, a common occurrence in Indonesia. As there is a religious court, which operates independently of the main law courts, religious minorities can be abused by both the mobs and the courts!

It is reported on here in Australia to a degree, but hardly gets a full page to it's self.

gimpy117 02-08-11 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 1593418)
Everyone from dictators to religious groups think they do God service. Peace loving christians have had their crusade. Hitler thought he was just finishing up where christians left off and now it's the muslims turn. 'cept I think this one is eventually going world wide.

Hitler Just disliked the jews.

When it comes to the crusades, the entire WORLD wasn't a really safe place to be. Now, In a time when most major countries want peace...Islam is wanting war. So i feel it's different.

Skybird 02-08-11 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020 (Post 1593624)
This is, unfortunately, a common occurrence in Indonesia.

Not only there, but on all continents. Most action takes place in Africa, last year Nigeria was often in the news, was it, with hundreds killed, the genocide against Christians in North-East Africa not mentioned. Events of suppression, mobbing, discrimination of Jewish and Christian minorities, and the occasional assassination on the street, you see taking place in many countries of Islam, even those that are considered to be "pro-Western", like Turkey or Egypt.

Any how could it be different? discrimination the infidels and making them feel subordinate is demanded in their damn holy book, black on white. They just follow the demand of their precious peaceful tolerant "religion".

Not all "Muslims" claiming to be Muslims agree with doing so. But these Muslims - are in violation of the ideology they claim to represent. The Quran does not know tolerance on the basis of equal status between Islam and other cultures. It speaks of tolerance in the form the master tolerates his submissive and obedient dog. If the dog refuses to obey and be dismissive and gets stubborn when being treated as an inferior, the Quran calls for violence against those resisting Islam.

Pragmatic, isn't it!? It's the freedom and the peace of a slave that Islam is allowing us infidels.

On Hitler and the Jews, Islam is antisemitic from all beginning on. Since ,Muhammad felt he was offended by the Jewish pharisees when they showed him their education was superior to his own, he hated them, and let them feel it. I see this biographic detail of Muhammad's life as the basic root of Islam's antisemitism - like anything in the Quran can only be understood and must be seen in the light of Muhammad's life and his political motivations. That's why "Muhammeddanism" still is the far more precise label for what is referred to as "Islam".

The crusades, since gimpy mentioned them, initially started as a defensive action to retake ground that was lost to the Islamic conquest. That was the original motivation for it. Not before later, the crusades turned from this to more opportunistic wars of the noble to win personal wealth, fame and new land. But without Islamic aggression first, the first crusades would not have taken place. If one calls the crusades war of aggression, one could as well call the reconquista in Spain, the throwing out of Islamic conquerors from Southern Italy and Greece, the defeat of Muslim armies in middle France, and the defense of Vienna, wars of Christian aggression.

Rockstar 02-08-11 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1593619)
Isn't it that already by claim, and almost that by deed? I mean it is integral part of the ideologic agenda. Muhammad said participation is mandatory for Muhameddan males. No wonder - he did not need an army of deserters, did he.

Skybird last I looked if things keep going like they are half of all human births on this planet will be to Muslim families by 2055. And they know it. Not to mention a surge in conversions to Islam since 9-11. Yep, I'd wager by the end of the century you're either going to submit or face the caliphs blade


"Islam our religion today, your religion tomorrow"
slogan used by muslims protesting in Europe 1989


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