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4saken 01-09-11 08:27 AM

English channel
 
I have read numerous posts saying stay away from the english channel.
But why?I mean when France falls, why not sale as close as possible to the french coast (like 3-4 kms)?Royal navy wont be a threat and even RAF will have trouble by the Luftwaffe...

Jimbuna 01-09-11 08:53 AM

STAY OUT OF THE ENGLISH CHANNEL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...ies/pirate.gif

VONHARRIS 01-09-11 08:53 AM

Πρέπει να περάσεις τα στενά του Καλαί και εκεί θα τα βρείς σκούρα

Translation
You have to pass through the Calai strait and things there are though.
The RAF is always dangerous and the waters in the Channel are heavily mined by both sides. There are also very shallow.

I think you will reconsider now.

Sailor Steve 01-09-11 09:40 AM

They call it the ENGLISH Channel for a reason. They mined the Calais-Dover pass very heavily. Yes, there was German convoy traffic close to the French coast at night, and it was intercepted constantly by the British MTBs, leading to terrific battles between them and the Schnellboote. Unfortunately "close to the French coast" is also very shallow water, with nowhere for a u-boat to hide. The Channel was the most dangerous place for a u-boat, and very few, if any, ever went that way.

frau kaleun 01-09-11 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 4saken (Post 1570351)
I have read numerous posts saying stay away from the english channel.
But why?I mean when France falls, why not sale as close as possible to the french coast (like 3-4 kms)?Royal navy wont be a threat and even RAF will have trouble by the Luftwaffe...

Because even if you stay as close as possible to the French coast, you are still really, REALLY close to the English one. :O:

Kongo Otto 01-09-11 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun (Post 1570401)
Because even if you stay as close as possible to the French coast, you are still really, REALLY close to the English one. :O:

But the most important is you are really really close to their food. :rotfl2:
Avoid that under any circumstances, because Baked beans and Black pudding
can really shorten your live. :haha::har:

Tessa 01-09-11 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1570368)


BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!! :arrgh!: Early in the war you frequently run across lightly escorted convoys in the channel which can be quite lucrative. Mines are a major consideration, usually manage to hit 1 out of every 5 or so trips through it, aircraft traffic can be really heavy once they spot you. Water is (relatively) shallow, most of it at most 50m or so deep which makes the whole thing like a several hundred km harbor raid. Just a few eels or only the deck gun can come out of the channel with 20k-30k tons of shipping sunk before you even start your main patrol! You got the whole risk/reward cunnundrum going on there.

Sailor Steve 01-09-11 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tessa (Post 1570434)
...usually manage to hit 1 out of every 5 or so trips through it...

You got the whole risk/reward cunnundrum going on there.

Risks? How about you tell yourself that if you die in the game you put it away and don't play for a year? :D

For me hitting one mine - EVER - is unacceptable. Sure it happens, but I can't look at a game like this as just a game. Risking death for a purpose is okay to me, but for a higher score? Not me, thanks. :sunny:

Tessa 01-09-11 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1570442)
Risks? How about you tell yourself that if you die in the game you put it away and don't play for a year? :D

For me hitting one mine - EVER - is unacceptable. Sure it happens, but I can't look at a game like this as just a game. Risking death for a purpose is okay to me, but for a higher score? Not me, thanks. :sunny:

At the end of the day SH3 is a game, and meant to be enjoyed. Taking risks is part of what got made all the aces, aces. They weren't afraid to be take the bull by the horns and think outside the box to get the job done. 1) Being the wrong gender kept me away from ever serving on a Submarine and 2)by the time I would have graduated from OCS I would have shortly after been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease that would have got me a medical discharge whether I liked it or not. I wish I could speak from experience but life just robbed me of it.

Part of the fun in the game is using your own creativity to accomplish the ultimate goal of sinking more ships. Finding new ways or methods that wouldn't have been considered except by the boldest of captain at the time is what makes the game fun (for me at least).

Jimbuna 01-09-11 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1570442)
Risks? How about you tell yourself that if you die in the game you put it away and don't play for a year? :D

For me hitting one mine - EVER - is unacceptable. Sure it happens, but I can't look at a game like this as just a game. Risking death for a purpose is okay to me, but for a higher score? Not me, thanks. :sunny:

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Missing Name 01-09-11 11:55 AM

Far too risky, even for my liking. The farthest in I've ever gone is Dunkirk.

desirableroasted 01-09-11 01:12 PM

English Channel = Thug-filled alley in a 3rd-world shantytown.

You are more than welcome to it.

frau kaleun 01-09-11 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted (Post 1570565)
English Channel = Thug-filled alley in a 3rd-world shantytown.

You are more than welcome to it.

Even Commander Vimes stays out of the Channel. :D

Gargamel 01-09-11 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1570368)

That was my thought when i saw the thread title.

Falkirion 01-09-11 10:29 PM

The only time the channel should be used is before the outbreak of hostilities in 39, and after the German surrender in 45. For all intents and purposes (for me at least) its too much risk, and not enough reward to try and run the channel.


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