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mookiemookie 09-14-10 12:07 PM

Corn Refiners want to rename "High Fructose Corn Syrup" to "Corn Sugar"
 
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The Corn Refiners Association, which represents firms that make the syrup, has been trying to improve the image of the much maligned sweetener with ad campaigns promoting it as a natural ingredient made from corn. Now, the group has petitioned the United States Food and Drug Administration to start calling the ingredient “corn sugar,” arguing that a name change is the only way to clear up consumer confusion about the product.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...er=rss&emc=rss

The Third Man 09-14-10 12:14 PM

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High-fructose corn syrup, which came into widespread use in the 1970s, isn’t particularly high in fructose, but was so named to distinguish it from ordinary, glucose-containing corn syrup, according to a report in The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
I think this says it all. Move on, nothing important here.

mookiemookie 09-14-10 12:21 PM

Says what exactly? That HFCS and corn syrup are two separate things? Uhh...okay. That's not in question.

Many scientific studies are finding links to HFCS and diabetes and obesity. It's good for people to know when big agriculture is trying to hide something.

The Third Man 09-14-10 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1492934)
Many scientific studies are finding links to HFCS and diabetes and obesity. It's good for people to know when big agriculture is trying to hide something.

Very well, then don't eat and /or drink anything containing the ingredient but lets not lobby to ban it for everyone. Which is where this is leading. Liberty means allowing people to make their own choices.

mookiemookie 09-14-10 12:30 PM

I don't disagree. But what you're seeing is the market making it's preference known, and the corn refiners are trying to pull a fast one.

The Third Man 09-14-10 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1492948)
I don't disagree. But what you're seeing is the market making it's preference known, and the corn refiners are trying to pull a fast one.

It's called marketing. And every one, including yourself does it.

Big AG, Big Oil, Big Auto, Big Tech, Big Tobacco, Big Military Industrial, is there any industry which you like? Remember Big Gov't isn't an industry.

mookiemookie 09-14-10 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1492953)
is there any industry which you like?

No. Look up how the Founding Fathers wanted corporations dealt with. I agree with them.

SteamWake 09-14-10 12:55 PM

Meh whats in a name. Personally I detest the stuff. They now sell sodas made with 'gasp' sugar. You can really tell the difference.

But hey I thought the 'war' was on salt :salute:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...ant-menus.html

The Third Man 09-14-10 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1492960)
No. Look up how the Founding Fathers wanted corporations dealt with. I agree with them.


Not to ofend, but unless you don't work; you work, or dirive your livelyhood, in an industry. By your previous post it is 'Big' something.

mookiemookie 09-14-10 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1492976)
Meh whats in a name. Personally I detest the stuff. They now sell sodas made with 'gasp' sugar. You can really tell the difference.

But hey I thought the 'war' was on salt :salute:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...ant-menus.html

True. Crap by any other name....

Less sugar in general is a good idea.

Bubblehead1980 09-14-10 01:13 PM

For once I agree with mookie.HFCS has been linked to diabetes and obesity and problem is, it's in so many things.Big AG is attempting to change the name to pull a fast one.The product should not be banned but name should remain the same and food/drink makers should try to use a less harmful substitute.Big Tobacco tried for years to pull some of the same crap and finally, they lost but then again they still make billions of off hopelessly addicted weak minded cig addicts.The same drink makers like Coke will continue to make money off suckers like me, I love the stuff.HATE Pepsi though:har:

Takeda Shingen 09-14-10 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1492996)
For once I agree with mookie.HFCS has been linked to diabetes and obesity and problem is, it's in so many things.Big AG is attempting to change the name to pull a fast one.The product should not be banned but name should remain the same and food/drink makers should try to use a less harmful substitute.Big Tobacco tried for years to pull some of the same crap and finally, they lost but then again they still make billions of off hopelessly addicted weak minded cig addicts.The same drink makers like Coke will continue to make money off suckers like me, I love the stuff.HATE Pepsi though:har:

I'm with you there. The name should remain the same so that the consumer can make the choice as to whether or not he or she use it in the face of the fact that HFSC is really, really bad for you.

The Third Man 09-14-10 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1493007)
I'm with you there. The name should remain the same so that the consumer can make the choice as to whether or not he or she use it in the face of the fact that HFSC is really, really bad for you.

I thought that was what the FDA mandated ingedient and nutrition labeling was for. Not enough for the under educated public school educated I guess.

Safe-Keeper 09-14-10 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1492953)
It's called marketing. And every one, including yourself does it.

Big AG, Big Oil, Big Auto, Big Tech, Big Tobacco, Big Military Industrial, is there any industry which you like? Remember Big Gov't isn't an industry.

What about Big Homeopathy, Big Organic, Big Natural, Big Local and Big Altmed? Oh, wait, those don't count for some reason:-?.

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I'm with you there. The name should remain the same so that the consumer can make the choice as to whether or not he or she use it in the face of the fact that HFSC is really, really bad for you.
Then I assume you're also in favour of regulations on the marketing label "organic", since there's such a huge variety in practices and consumers should have "freedom of choice".

If you want a more rational and nuanced view on "High Fructose" corn syrup than "OMG Corporations r evil!!!", check out this podcast.

The Third Man 09-14-10 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 1493067)
What about Big Homeopathy, Big Organic, Big Natural, Big Local and Big Altmed? Oh, wait, those don't count for some reason:-?.

Then I assume you're also in favour of regulations on the marketing label "organic", since there's such a huge variety in practices and consumers should have "freedom of choice".

If you want a more rational and nuanced view on "High Fructose" corn syrup than "OMG Corporations r evil!!!", check out this podcast.

Big Green


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