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Hans Uberman 09-13-10 04:58 PM

The Deck Gun Removalist
 
It is 1942 in my current campaign, and for the last 8 months I have only had opportunity to use the deck gun 3-4 times, due to weather, increased number of escorts, and armed merchants. Like K-61, I have been considering the removal of my deck gun. (Using SH3 Commander.) I assume that SH3 Commander does not allow you to replace the gun once removed, and that you can purchase another one in-game if you change your mind? I'm guessing that there is no performance gain through the removal of said gun.

I could brave it and go gun-happy, but have been using this campaign as a training ground to learn tactics and the proper level of aggression/caution to get one out alive. I plan to go dead is dead in my next campaign, and so this learning opportunity has been invaluable. More than likely, I'll hold onto the gun until near 1943, and pretend that the extra space the ammo was taking is getting used for food, etc...

ediko 09-13-10 05:12 PM

Don't know mate it's you're choice. I'm in 42 now and I still used my gun a few times. (like parking behind a stopped freighter when he only has a gun on his front and finishing him off, or what I did in my last patrol - hitting the damn Liberty freighter with my cannon, although liberty was fully armed, because I lacked the fuel to make another pass and sink it properly with torpedoes)

If I see it myself that I don't really need it I will remove it but for now I take all I can bring with me to patrols. Who knows maybe I'll find a sailing boat I hate ;)

Hans Uberman 09-13-10 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ediko (Post 1492247)
If I see it myself that I don't really need it I will remove it but for now I take all I can bring with me to patrols. Who knows maybe I'll find a sailing boat I hate ;)

I like your point about the sailing vessels. I usually leave them alone out of kindness, but once I had a destroyer come after me soon after passing one by. I think the sailing vessel ratted me out. The deck gun might be useful for "thanking" her.

Either way, I want to wait a another 8-9 months before I make a final decision. Would be nice to know if one can get the gun back though.

Weiss Pinguin 09-13-10 05:44 PM

Well as you said there's no performance gain if you remove the deck gun, but as far as I know there's no performance penalty for keeping it, so unless you want to play it 100% historical I'd say leave it on there :arrgh!:

JEuler 09-13-10 05:49 PM

Here's an article about the guns http://uboat.net/technical/guns.htm

In RL the guns were removed from almost all boats in 1943.

As ediko said it's your choice.

It's harder and harder to sink ships with the deck gun as the war goes on.In a training career you could keep it,in DiD it's not worth it.

Snestorm 09-13-10 06:13 PM

@JEuler
Good link. Thanks.

K-61 09-13-10 06:38 PM

I'm in patrol one of my new career after Commander retired my previous career. It is Dec. 1942 but I have not used the deck gun since late 1941. Once I get back to base I will take it off for my next patrol.

U777 09-13-10 07:50 PM

I'm holding on to it because you never know when you may need it.

Jimbuna 09-14-10 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin (Post 1492267)
Well as you said there's no performance gain if you remove the deck gun, but as far as I know there's no performance penalty for keeping it, so unless you want to play it 100% historical I'd say leave it on there :arrgh!:

Agreed...you just never know when you might need it.

STEED 09-14-10 02:49 PM

I've never been able to use the DG after my first visit to the States so its goes by Jun42. I was thinking about a no DG from the start of the war just trying something out different for a change.

Gerald 09-14-10 03:01 PM

I've had it remained even after 1943,
 
and if it's IXC, or IXD, there is a need, and as a compliment, when you least expect it,and to use deckgun at other times is very well documented..

Jimbuna 09-14-10 03:37 PM

:hmmm:

Gerald 09-14-10 05:28 PM

Well, this is one element of a humorous analysis of the situation
 
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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1493148)
:hmmm:

:O:

U777 09-14-10 05:42 PM

Just sunk a coal tender with the DG, that sucker was unlucky that it was calm seas because its not worth wasting an expensive torpedo.

Gerald 09-14-10 05:49 PM

Quite right position to use the DG,
 
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Originally Posted by U777 (Post 1493266)
Just sunk a coal tender with the DG, that sucker was unlucky that it was calm seas because its not worth wasting an expensive torpedo.

but they can be difficult to hit, when they zig-zag a lot


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