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The Third Man 09-10-10 03:56 PM

The Ideas Obama ignores, and tells us don't exist.
 
<LI nodeIndex="1">Stop saying there are no ideas.<LI nodeIndex="1"><LI nodeIndex="1">
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<LI nodeIndex="1">Place a firm cap on overall federal spending, and limit future year-to-year growth to inflation plus population growth. Federal spending is on an unsustainable trajectory because we lack a mechanism that forces Congress to live within agreed upon spending limits. A binding cap will force lawmakers to make the tough decisions required to get us back to fiscal sanity. <LI nodeIndex="1">

Require the Big Three entitlement programs—Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security—to live within firm, congressionally approved budgets. If Congress is ever to control spending, it must end the era of open-ended entitlements. Currently, Big Three spending is on autopilot—increasing automatically year after year. Entitlement spending must be brought into the congressional budgetary process. Lawmakers should establish a five-year budget for these programs and include protective mechanisms, such as triggers, that will automatically keep spending within the congressionally approved limits.

Revive federalism. The federal government has usurped the states’ traditional role in areas such as transportation, education, health (especially Medicaid), homeland security, and law enforcement. Washington must cede vast swatches of its policymaking authority—and the funding that goes with it—to states willing to reassume leadership in these areas.

Limit the unsustainable growth of welfare spending, and require recipients to give something back. Aggregate welfare spending now approaches $1 trillion annually and does more harm than good. Congress must treat all 71 means-tested welfare programs holistically, as a discrete category of federal spending, and cap annual year-to-year welfare spending growth at inflation. This will force Congress to consider new approaches that could actually help the poor surmount poverty. To this end, Congress should require able-bodied adults to treat a portion of certain welfare benefits as loans to be repaid rather than as an open-ended grant from taxpayers.

Pay federal workers wages and benefits comparable to what their counterparts earn in the private sector. Federal employee compensation is far too generous. Total compensation—hourly wages plus benefits—is 30–40% above that of comparable private sector workers. By bringing federal compensation in line with market rates, Congress would save taxpayers approximately $47 billion a year.

Do no harm. Tax increases, especially those loaded on small-business owners (our most productive and entrepreneurial individuals), are counterproductive at any time. To raise taxes during a recession is a recipe for crippling economic growth and job creation. Maintaining the tax burden at its current level is the least Congress should do.

Encourage investment and job creation. Reduce the top tax rate on corporate earnings—currently the second highest among all industrial nations—and let businesses immediately deduct investments in new plant and equipment. These two changes to the tax code will unleash the most productive investment and create the most private sector jobs. Specifically, lawmakers should align the top rate on corporate earnings to those that prevail in our 30 largest trading partners—approximately 25%.

Liberate employed seniors from payroll taxes. As part of the broader effort to reform entitlement programs, seniors who wish to work beyond retirement age should be freed from the burden of paying Social Security payroll taxes. Employers willing to retain or hire these older workers also should be exempt from paying the employer share of the FICA tax.

Invest in peace through strength. A robust military is the surest way to deter aggression and reinforce U.S. diplomacy. To accomplish this, the Pentagon procurement holiday must end. Congress must refurbish our armed forces, especially our depleted Navy fleet and vital missile defenses.


mookiemookie 09-10-10 04:03 PM

Thanks for the copy/paste political hot air spam.

The Third Man 09-10-10 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1490016)
Thanks for the copy/paste political hot air spam.

You are very much welcome. And Thank You for your trolling behavior.

antikristuseke 09-10-10 04:14 PM

That's rich, coming from you.
Or me for that mater.

Oberon 09-10-10 04:16 PM

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/f...facepalm-1.jpg

ETR3(SS) 09-10-10 04:55 PM

1. What is the source of this? As it was said this is a copy paste job.

2. Has Obama been presented with these ideas?

3. I seemed to miss the part that tells us that Obama ignored these ideas and told us they didn't exist. Could you point that out for me please?

The Third Man 09-10-10 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS) (Post 1490054)
1. What is the source of this? As it was said this is a copy paste job.

2. Has Obama been presented with these ideas?

3. I seemed to miss the part that tells us that Obama ignored these ideas and told us they didn't exist. Could you point that out for me please?

1. If you agree with the ides you will soon be aware of where they come from. if you don't agree it makes little difference.

2. Of course he has. If not Obama wouldn't have characterised the republicans as the party of 'no'. Remember his speach about mopping up?

3. The party of no tells you he ignores the ideas. And his statements that he is the president.

These ideas have been on the table for the last 19-20 months.

I don't have to justify the ideas. These are them. They are certainly different than the wreck-onomics we are experiencing now.

mookiemookie 09-10-10 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1490018)
You are very much welcome. And Thank You for your trolling behavior.

Sorry if you define trolling as someone pointing out the fact that you're spamming the forum with copy paste political screeds without any comment or discussion attached.

The Third Man 09-10-10 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1490067)
Sorry if you define trolling as someone pointing out the fact that you're spamming the forum with copy paste political screeds without any comment or discussion attached.

So now it's spamming. I love liberal progressives. If it doesn't fit the narrative it is always the poster's fault. My thread, no one asked you to participate.

The Third Man 09-10-10 05:26 PM

Ideas.

ETR3(SS) 09-10-10 05:28 PM

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1. If you agree with the ides you will soon be aware of where they come from. if you don't agree it makes little difference.
So if I agree with the ideas am I going to get some sort of divine inspiration that is going to provide me with a link? But if I don't agree it doesn't matter? Why not?

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2. Of course he has. If not Obama wouldn't have characterised the republicans as the party of 'no'. Remember his speach about mopping up?
Good. Then perhaps you can tell me how he was presented these ideas and who did the presentation. I remember a lot of Democrats speaking about mopping and cleaning and so forth. I think they just smeared the dirt around more.:O:

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3. The party of no tells you he ignores the ideas. And his statements that he is the president.
I prefer not to listen to what one party says about another. They both seem like a couple of spoiled brats fighting over the same toy to me. So because the POTUS makes a statement saying that he is the POTUS that's supposed to tell me that he ignored these ideas and that they didn't exist?

I'm not trying to make a fool out of you here, I'm just trying to develop an informed opinion. To do that I need to ask questions to get more information.

Oberon 09-10-10 05:28 PM

Actually, it's Neals thread, since he's the guy that has to sort out the bandwidth of this forum.

Anyway, didn't we have an anti-Obama thread a while ago? I think I'll go and find it and bump it back up so you guys can post in it all you want.

EDIT: Hmmm, no, apparently there isn't a specific thread...perhaps there should be. An Obama thread and a Muslim thread...but then the forum would probably never get any posts outside of the two... :haha:

The Third Man 09-10-10 05:37 PM

The ideas which many said didn't exist, do exist after all. Wrap your mind around them or don't. I am only the messenger.

The Third Man 09-10-10 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1490090)
Actually, it's Neals thread, since he's the guy that has to sort out the bandwidth of this forum.

Anyway, didn't we have an anti-Obama thread a while ago? I think I'll go and find it and bump it back up so you guys can post in it all you want.

EDIT: Hmmm, no, apparently there isn't a specific thread...perhaps there should be. An Obama thread and a Muslim thread...but then the forum would probably never get any posts outside of the two... :haha:

It is Neal's board but it is my thread.

To you it seams anti-Obama, to me, it is more pro America in nature. If you interpret it as anti-Obama that says something about you.

Oberon 09-10-10 05:47 PM

Is it pro-American or anti-Obama?

Now that's a good question, however I do not see any mention of America in the thread title. But, whatever, like you say, it's your thread. Knock yourself out. :salute:


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