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tmdgm 08-26-10 07:15 PM

s class opinion
 
Anyone out there play with S boats? I just started an sboat campaign in the asiatic at start of war and it's a pain, really because of it's speed. In medium seas, most i can do is 10-12 knots. Most freighters i'm running into are going 10 knots (which seems 3 knots faster than in SH3 btw?)

If i'm not in the front quarter of the freighters, ferget bout it. I can't catch em.

Doesn't seem like any other subs are available to upgrade to yet when i'm in dock.

i like the boat, just too slow on surface.

Capt. Morgan 08-26-10 09:33 PM

I like the "Sugar" boat too. I've begun every Pacific career in one.

Some Skippers may start out in an air conditioned, radar equipped, 10 tubed Gato, but they won't appreciate what a Gato is capable of nearly as much as you will appreciate a lowly Porpoise when you finally get offered one (that's usually around partol 3).


In the words of the immortal Harry Callahan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2JnCXvm_Qc), "A man's got to know his limitations", and that's what the S' is all about.

Survive in an S-Boat long enough to be offered anything better and you'll be unstoppable.

Gerald 08-26-10 10:10 PM

If you said Gato, I say yes,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmdgm (Post 1478244)
Anyone out there play with S boats? I just started an sboat campaign in the asiatic at start of war and it's a pain, really because of it's speed. In medium seas, most i can do is 10-12 knots. Most freighters i'm running into are going 10 knots (which seems 3 knots faster than in SH3 btw?)

If i'm not in the front quarter of the freighters, ferget bout it. I can't catch em.

Doesn't seem like any other subs are available to upgrade to yet when i'm in dock.

i like the boat, just too slow on surface.

:yep:

pickinthebanjo 08-27-10 12:02 AM

Yeah, I like the S-class myself, you gotta respect something that outdated. Didn't they crush at 100m? I'm just going of old history channel on that, never actually had to dive one past 100m

Rockin Robbins 08-27-10 04:10 AM

Outdated????? The S-Boat was the first submarine to be optimized for underwater performance, beating the Type XXI U-Boat by 24 years! Smaller and with less power than the later fleet boats, it was faster and quicker handling underwater.

However, not having solved the battery problem, when it was time to design a fleet boat, the designers chose to build a surface raider that could submerge when it actually had to. But the S-Boat absolutely disproves the notion that the Germans were just some kind of alien supermen who designed an absolute breakthrough in the Type XXI because of its optimization for submerged speed. Pure poppycock!

So I'll take that 9 knot surface speed with a smile! The S-Boat was almost 30 years out of date and STILL acquitted itself admirably in WWII. Build some new ones with decent ice cream machines and they would have been good for another 20 years.:woot:

tmdgm 08-27-10 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Morgan (Post 1478321)
I like the "Sugar" boat too. I've begun every Pacific career in one.

Some Skippers may start out in an air conditioned, radar equipped, 10 tubed Gato, but they won't appreciate what a Gato is capable of nearly as much as you will appreciate a lowly Porpoise when you finally get offered one (that's usually around partol 3).


In the words of the immortal Harry Callahan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2JnCXvm_Qc), "A man's got to know his limitations", and that's what the S' is all about.

Survive in an S-Boat long enough to be offered anything better and you'll be unstoppable.


k, so it's 3rd patrol i can upgrade? I think i'm about ready for a porpoise.

Rockin Robbins 08-27-10 10:22 AM

The blind chimp tosses a dart at the bonus board every time you end a cruise to see what upgrades you're offered. Don't extend your cruises by resupplying. Get home, let the chimp do his thing and you'll get your porpoise quicker.:up:

Ducimus 08-27-10 08:41 PM

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s class opinion
Leaky, pop riveted, outdated WW1 rust buckets fit only for training duty! :D

(duck's and runs :88) )

Platapus 08-27-10 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins (Post 1478498)
Outdated????? The S-Boat was the first submarine to be optimized for underwater performance, beating the Type XXI U-Boat by 24 years! Smaller and with less power than the later fleet boats, it was faster and quicker handling underwater.

However, not having solved the battery problem, when it was time to design a fleet boat, the designers chose to build a surface raider that could submerge when it actually had to. But the S-Boat absolutely disproves the notion that the Germans were just some kind of alien supermen who designed an absolute breakthrough in the Type XXI because of its optimization for submerged speed. Pure poppycock!

So I'll take that 9 knot surface speed with a smile! The S-Boat was almost 30 years out of date and STILL acquitted itself admirably in WWII. Build some new ones with decent ice cream machines and they would have been good for another 20 years.:woot:

Wow, a bunch of stuffage I did not know about the S class boats. I feel chagrined dissing the Sugar boats. :oops:

razark 08-27-10 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1479183)
Leaky, pop riveted, outdated WW1 rust buckets fit only for training duty!

But that's what makes them so much fun!

tater 08-27-10 09:25 PM

Need an interior mod for the pig boats that adds swarms of cockroaches. Everywhere.

Rockin Robbins 08-28-10 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1479226)
Need an interior mod for the pig boats that adds swarms of cockroaches. Everywhere.

:DTater's Cockroach Mod!

rein1705 09-04-10 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins (Post 1478498)
Outdated????? The S-Boat was the first submarine to be optimized for underwater performance, beating the Type XXI U-Boat by 24 years! Smaller and with less power than the later fleet boats, it was faster and quicker handling underwater.

However, not having solved the battery problem, when it was time to design a fleet boat, the designers chose to build a surface raider that could submerge when it actually had to. But the S-Boat absolutely disproves the notion that the Germans were just some kind of alien supermen who designed an absolute breakthrough in the Type XXI because of its optimization for submerged speed. Pure poppycock!

So I'll take that 9 knot surface speed with a smile! The S-Boat was almost 30 years out of date and STILL acquitted itself admirably in WWII. Build some new ones with decent ice cream machines and they would have been good for another 20 years.:woot:



ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!
Ive been in love with the pig boats ever since SH1
If you can be successful in these boats you'll never feel the same in another.

TorpexXIII 09-04-10 01:58 PM

***
 
I love the S boats. Always start in one. It makes upgrading to a bigger boat real sweet. Mind you its fun trying to get anywhere in them fast.
I even have trouble catching up with downed pilots!! LOL

Armistead 09-04-10 02:22 PM

Love the S boat, used it in the battle of Coral Sea. The Carriers were leaving me, but made the southern turn just in time right to me....One dead carrier.


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