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Gerald 08-23-10 06:54 PM

Funding of Embryonic Stem Cell Research Blocked by Ruling
 
A federal judge temporarily blocks the Obama administration from using federal dollars to fund expanded human embryonic stem cell research, saying the research involves the destruction of embryos.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...cell-research/


Note:Published August 23, 2010

UnderseaLcpl 08-23-10 07:10 PM

Lame.

mookiemookie 08-23-10 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1475599)
Lame.

Succinct and accurate.

Platapus 08-23-10 07:18 PM

Lame or not, every side has a right to their day in court. I just wish the courts could decide this matter once and for all.

Zachstar 08-23-10 07:26 PM

More rulings for the idiocy that wants to protect the baby until it is born then the baby gets to fight to survive because even a scrap of gov assistance is teh devil.

IDIOTS

UnderseaLcpl 08-23-10 08:21 PM

lol wut?

gimpy117 08-24-10 05:47 PM

I suppose we should yell "jesus is lord!, and babies babies babies!" to all the people that could use this research to stay alive. Thats about as good as a reason as the ruling. Irreparable damage? come on. Besides theres plenty of already born babies to adopt.

Skybird 08-24-10 07:15 PM

A "potential" is not already a "manifestation".

A minor, relatively unstructured bunch of cells is not more or less a human entity, as is a hair follicle. There are no nerves. No sensual organs. No brain. there is no feeling, no thinking, no perceiving, no intellect. These qualities must have left the mystic realm of "potential" and found entrance into the realm of material manifestation, before we can start talking of a human.

In a way a human is a complex structure of a huge bunch of cells. But that does not mean that every bunch of cells is a human.

Can't understand this endless debate about stemcell research. Artificial genetical selection to create designer babies for example is a far greater ethical challenge, with greater implications and problems to be considered. Or the vision of genetically designing babies in order to use them as biologically fully compatible organ- donators for their sisters and brothers - a horror vision.

But brandmarking stemcell research as a crime against human ethics? You could as well call masturbation a mass murder on cellular level.

DarkFish 08-24-10 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1476324)
A minor, relatively unstructured bunch of cells is not more or less a human entity, as is a hair follicle. There are no nerves. No sensual organs. No brain. there is no feeling, no thinking, no perceiving, no intellect. These qualities must have left the mystic realm of "potential" and found entrance into the realm of material manifestation, before we can start talking of a human.

:up:

If you want to ban stem cell research, ban all barbers as well. And all nail clippers. And don't forget never to take a shower again, cause every time you do you wash away countless skin cells:doh:

The Third Man 08-24-10 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1476324)
A "potential" is not already a "manifestation".

With that logic we shouldn't have any state assistance, for anything including the unemployed. Because the potential of embrionic research isn't a manifestation of benifit, any more than potential employment, is an actual job, for which we spend the majority of tax dollars.

Bubblehead1980 08-25-10 01:44 AM

One of only two things I like that Obama has done thus far and now this, blah.

The Third Man 08-25-10 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1476514)
One of only two things I like that Obama has done thus far and now this, blah.

There is a 1996 law which placed Obama's executive order beyond his authority, in a constitutional republic. If he really wanted to make a difference he would have asked congress to change the law.

Obama didn't and here you are.

Aramike 08-25-10 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1475599)
Lame.

I am absolutely shocked at you!

Since when do you promote using ANY federal dollars for private enterprise???

Personally, I agree with the decision ... I see no need in investing federal money in a field which, if it showed as much potential as some think, would easily recieve the necessary private funding. Think about it - the applications of this field would be worth BILLIONS. It's true potential isn't as promising as it would seem according to the media, however. That's why they seek government money.

Do I have some moral problem with embyronic stem cell research? Not at all. Frankly I think measurable brain activity should define life, and an embryo is not that.

However, I don't want my tax dollars subsidizing any private industry, and although I can't stop them all, I'd prefer to stop the ones that show little promise.


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