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The Third Man 08-12-10 10:48 PM

What non-US media thinks
 
This is an article from the Telegraph. I don't know the politics of the publication but was searching the web, and this was the first thing which popped up.

The stunning decline of Barack Obama

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ni...s-in-meltdown/

Méo 08-12-10 11:04 PM

and try to look at what non-US medias think about George W. Bush...

The Third Man 08-12-10 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo (Post 1466284)
and try to look at what non-US medias think about George W. Bush...

Brilliant!

Méo 08-12-10 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1466286)
Brilliant!

I must say, I didn't think you would reply with this. :hmmm:

The Third Man 08-12-10 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo (Post 1466290)
I must say, I didn't think you would reply with this. :hmmm:

And I don't know how I could have overlooked the answer? It is just so obvious.

Méo 08-12-10 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man (Post 1466293)
And I don't know how I could have overlooked the answer? It is just so obvious.

It's just that people here easily get flamed about politics.

Cool to see you're not. ;)

The Third Man 08-12-10 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo (Post 1466295)
It's just that people here easily get flamed about politics.

Cool to see you're not. ;)

Well I don't know how I missed Mr. Obama's message that it is Bush's fault, and that 18 months in office mean nothing. I need to get back to reality and stop looking at other thoughts as having any truth.

SteamWake 08-13-10 10:05 AM

Try to find 'good' press about Bush in the mainstream american media.

Now find 'good' press about Obama.

Which one was easier? :salute:

mookiemookie 08-13-10 11:02 AM

Same old talking points.

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often dull presidential speeches and statements delivered via teleprompter.
...like every other president and politician has for the past 20 years. Seriously, what is this obsession with the teleprompter? It's like bashing a news anchor for wearing makeup or trashing the weatherman for having a computer weather map behind him.

Sailor Steve 08-13-10 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Méo (Post 1466284)
...medias...

:nope:

Media is plural. One is a medium.

TLAM Strike 08-13-10 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1466719)
:nope:

Media is plural. One is a medium.

Would that make "Multimedia" a double positive? :hmmm:

August 08-13-10 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1466709)
Seriously, what is this obsession with the teleprompter? It's like bashing a news anchor for wearing makeup or trashing the weatherman for having a computer weather map behind him.

No it's not. The weatherman and news anchor can both do their jobs without those aids if they had to. From what I've seen Obama can't hardly speak at all if he's not reading from a teleprompter.

Besides this isn't about any other President. Talk about talking points! Is this always going to be the Democrat answer to criticism? "Yeah but our predecessors were bad too"? Good luck with that strategy in 2012.

The Third Man 08-13-10 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1466728)
The weatherman and news anchor can both do their jobs without those aids if they had to.


Well maybe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDVeP...eature=related

Sailor Steve 08-13-10 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1466709)
Same old talking points.

...like every other president and politician has for the past 20 years. Seriously, what is this obsession with the teleprompter? It's like bashing a news anchor for wearing makeup or trashing the weatherman for having a computer weather map behind him.

Before television Presidents (and everyone else) always had their speeches on paper. In front of them. Where they could read them.

I'm no fan of Obama, but this guy doesn't have a clue. He brings up 10 points, and proceeds to get everything wrong.

1. Out of Touch: Of course the president is out of touch with the people. He's in a unique position, and can no longer be "One of the people". Anyone remember the big deal the left made out of George Bush senior being fascinated by a supermarket optical scanner? "He doesn't even know what it's like to be a real person anymore!"

And the first lady? First ladies make goodwill trips to other countries. That's what they do.

2. Most Americans don't have confidence in his leadership: Guess what? The public is fickle. If the president doesn't do something great and wonderful every day, he's no longer what we thought he was. It happens to every president.

3. Fails to inspire: Same thing. If he doesn't inspire us all to new and better things every single week, he's lost his touch.

4. The US is drowning in debt: And has been for as long as I can remember. Though I will give the guy some slack on this one, as his observation that Obama is "Actively" growing the debt is observably true.

5. Big Government message is falling flat: If you listen to Conservative talk radio you always believed that. I'll bet there a millions of dedicated liberals who haven't lost their faith. The only real evidence of that statement will be the next election.

6. Obama's support for health care is a huge political mistake: A huge mistake? I agree. But a huge political mistake? See #5. Time, and only time, will tell.

7. His handling of the BP spill is weak and indecisive: To his enemies, sure. What to his friends thing?

8. Foreign policy an embarrassing mess: I agree, but that doesn't mean his presidency is on the decline. Again, it comes down to what everybody thinks, not just those who don't like him.

9. National Security: See #8.

10. Doesn't believe in American greatness: No, he just doesn't believe in your vision of American greatness.

I keep wondering whether this guy is a conservative who wants to dislike Obama or a liberal who has lost his faith. His observations on open warfare between the president and other liberals have some merit, but his whole article reads to me like the writing of someone who is stating what he wants to be so, not what he actually sees.

AVGWarhawk 08-13-10 11:32 AM

Quite frankly I think too much is expected of one man.


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