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TLAM Strike 06-29-10 12:58 PM

Convoy battle in the Gulf of Aden
 
http://english.sina.com/china/p/2010/0227/306019.html

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9...6019f8dt20.jpg

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4...6019f10dt2.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4...6019f12dt2.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4...6019f14dt2.jpg

Looks like a group of about 20 or so Merchant ships came under attack by a bunch of Pirate skiffs. The article says 50 approached the convoy.

ID has a great dissection of the photos:
http://www.informationdissemination....m-tactics.html


Ok me and Xabbarus are building our own North Korean style midget submarine and we are going to go and join the pirates! Who is with us? :arrgh!:

krashkart 06-29-10 01:19 PM

I volunteer as First Torpedo. :salute:

Oberon 06-29-10 01:46 PM

I'll bring a Churchill class SSN...there's bound to be one laid up somewhere...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/162/3...2f2844827f.jpg

:arrgh!:

Jimbuna 06-29-10 03:31 PM

I wonder how big the Chinese naval fleet was?

must have been more than 2 or three ships to deal with that number of pirate vessels :hmmm:

nikimcbee 06-29-10 04:48 PM

....waiting for HMS Compass Rose to sail over the horizon.:ahoy:

nikimcbee 06-29-10 04:49 PM

These guys need some apache aircover!

TLAM Strike 06-29-10 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1431004)
I wonder how big the Chinese naval fleet was?

must have been more than 2 or three ships to deal with that number of pirate vessels :hmmm:

The PLAN's deployments to the Gulf of Aden are normally a pair of Missile Destroyers and Tanker.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3...eploy02.th.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7...nrep887.th.jpg



This are photos of one of their recent deployments. IIRC this was a joint patrol with a Russian Udaloy class DDG late last year.

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1431063)
These guys need some apache aircover!

Recently the PRC has displayed a Z-8 with a ventral cannon pod.
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/6...89515mar27.jpg

The Z-8 is a Chinese copy of the French Aerospatiale Super Frelon and is designed for shipborne ASW and SAR missions.

Gerald 06-29-10 08:13 PM

Are the vessels....
 
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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1431174)
The PLAN's deployments to the Gulf of Aden are normally a pair of Missile Destroyers and Tanker.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3...eploy02.th.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7...nrep887.th.jpg



This are photos of one of their recent deployments. IIRC this was a joint patrol with a Russian Udaloy class DDG late last year.

Recently the PRC has displayed a Z-8 with a ventral cannon pod.
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/6...89515mar27.jpg

The Z-8 is a Chinese copy of the French Aerospatiale Super Frelon and is designed for shipborne ASW and SAR missions.

Copy or homemade? I look into Janes Group and find nothing spec....:hmm2:

TLAM Strike 06-29-10 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1431185)
Copy or homemade? I look into Janes Group and find nothing spec....:hmm2:

The chopper? They purchased several Frelons (about 30) from France then began building them on their own.

Gerald 06-29-10 08:40 PM

The ship not the chopper...
 
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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1431192)
The chopper? They purchased several Frelons (about 30) from France then began building them on their own.

Have you a clue?

TLAM Strike 06-29-10 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1431195)
Have you a clue?

Quote:

China acquired 13 Super Frelon SA321 naval helicopters in 1977-78. These helicopters came in two variants: anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and search and rescue (SAR) variant. The Super Frelon was the first helicopter of the PLA to be capable of operating from the flying deck of surface vessels. China also produces the Super Frelon locally under the designation Z-8 (land or ship based ASW/SAR helicopter). The Super Frelon remains operational with the PLA Navy today.
Since the early 1980s, the Super Frelons have been frequently used by the PLAN for shipborne ASW and SAR operations. For ASW mission, Z-8 is equipped with a surface search radar, French HS-12 dipping sonar while carrying a Whitehead A244S torpedo under the starboard side of the fuselage. They were also used to ferry supplies from replenishment ship to surface combatants, and transport marine troops from the landing ship to the shore. A naval SAR version called Z-8S with upgraded avionics and a searchlight, FLIR turret and a hoist flew on December 2004. Another rescue variant with dediated medivac eqipment onboard was also developed for the Navy as Z-8JH.
Z-8A version was developed as an army transport version and certified in February 1999. Two Z-8As were delivered to the Army for evaluation in 2001 but the Army decided to purchase more Mi-17V5s. Only one batch of about 6 Z-8A were delivered to the Army in November 2002, with the nose weather radar and side floats retained. Starting in 2007 PLAAF also acquired dozens of upgraded Z-8Ks and Z-8KAs for SAR missions, equipped with an FLIR turret and a searchlight underneath the cabin plus a hoist and a flare dispenser.
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aérospatiale_Super_Frelon


here is a blog post where they mention the new gun pod:
http://china-pla.blogspot.com/2010/03/ac-313.html

Gerald 06-29-10 09:10 PM

Thank you!
 
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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1431205)

For your research :salute:

TLAM Strike 06-29-10 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1431209)
For your research :salute:


Ooops, I just saw you were talking about the ships. :damn:

The ship with the tall and boxy Burke style Phased Array Radars is the Luyang-II Class DDG, while the other is a Luyang-I. The tanker is a Qiandaohu class AO.

Gerald 06-29-10 09:55 PM

You are a open book...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1431225)
Ooops, I just saw you were talking about the ships. :damn:

The ship with the tall and boxy Burke style Phased Array Radars is the Luyang-II Class DDG, while the other is a Luyang-I. The tanker is a Qiandaohu class AO.

No more google for me ask TLAM Strike instead,anyway I have sailing for the last 25 years,and one thing has never leave me,there are ship, navy stuff and as well the historic about, different object :up:

TLAM Strike 06-29-10 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1431246)
No more google for me ask TLAM Strike instead...

Yep! You are right. That's why Oberon calls me "Jack Ryan", because I'm like a CIA analyst when it comes to foreign navies. :up:


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