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Barso 06-27-10 05:54 PM

How do I fix my framerate?
 
I am trying to run SH5 at 1920x1200 at a decent 60fps but it has this really annoying micro stutter all the time.
I am running a corei7 at 3.8ghz and a gtx295 on AFR2 as there is no sli profile and SH4 run great on AFR2.
If I turn all the lightrays and clouds off it runs great but surely my setup should have no problem running this game all settings on.
I also have shadows off as I think they look awful and AAx2 only.

Gerald 06-27-10 06:57 PM

Hello!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barso (Post 1429514)
I am trying to run SH5 at 1920x1200 at a decent 60fps but it has this really annoying micro stutter all the time.
I am running a corei7 at 3.8ghz and a gtx295 on AFR2 as there is no sli profile and SH4 run great on AFR2.
If I turn all the lightrays and clouds off it runs great but surely my setup should have no problem running this game all settings on.
I also have shadows off as I think they look awful and AAx2 only.

Maybe you can use this tool for settings,http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=8936
:lurk:

zack 06-27-10 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barso (Post 1429514)
I am trying to run SH5 at 1920x1200 at a decent 60fps but it has this really annoying micro stutter all the time.
I am running a corei7 at 3.8ghz and a gtx295 on AFR2 as there is no sli profile and SH4 run great on AFR2.
If I turn all the lightrays and clouds off it runs great but surely my setup should have no problem running this game all settings on.
I also have shadows off as I think they look awful and AAx2 only.

VSync on?

i have the same issues but with vsync on it goes.

SteelViking 06-28-10 01:08 AM

What exactly is stuttering, the game itself, or specific animations?

Barso 06-28-10 05:27 AM

The game itself is stuttering.
It's really annoying.

SteelViking 06-28-10 07:00 AM

Huh, that is very weird, I sometimes get a little animation stuttering, but almost never the whole game. Are you sure that you have the latest graphics drivers? And also, I tell everyone who gets choppiness in their animations to decompress the .dds image files that are responsible for those animations. I don't know if that would work for you though since it is the whole game.

Try this anyway:http://www.filefront.com/16892499/Po...iness%20Fix.7z

I have simply packaged some essential environmental .dds files that I know help frame rate when decompressed(the ones for light and shadows are included). Simply install this in JSGME after all other mods, fire up a game, and then let me know what your results are.

onelifecrisis 06-28-10 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barso (Post 1429514)
How do I fix my framerate?

Control Panel > Programs > Select "SH5" > Click "Uninstall"

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

irish1958 06-28-10 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis (Post 1429938)
Control Panel > Programs > Select "SH5" > Click "Uninstall"

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

I nominate onelifecrises for helper of the year!:yeah:
Sensational idea:rock:

Seaman_Hornsby 06-29-10 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barso (Post 1429514)
I am trying to run SH5 at 1920x1200 at a decent 60fps but it has this really annoying micro stutter all the time.
I am running a corei7 at 3.8ghz and a gtx295 on AFR2 as there is no sli profile and SH4 run great on AFR2.
If I turn all the lightrays and clouds off it runs great but surely my setup should have no problem running this game all settings on.
I also have shadows off as I think they look awful and AAx2 only.

I've had the same problem with SH5 from the start. Modded, stock, it's all the same. If I disable 3D clouds it's smooth, but with clouds on it stutters or "hiccups" while panning the view around. I have plenty of computer horsepower (Core i7 920, ATI 4850) that runs Crysis smoothly, but not SH5. I've tried various things to improve the situation, adjusting priority, core affinity, v-sync, detail levels, and windowed mode settings as well as lower resolution, but none of it has worked. I get decent framerates, but the stutters persist.

SteelViking 06-29-10 02:36 PM

I am serious, try the fix I posted. If you have more than enough system resources, that means it is the game engine's fault. The only way I get the stuttering to stop for me is to decompress mass generated .dds files.

Barso 06-29-10 05:34 PM

Thanks, that helped but my main problem seems to be that my GTX295 is only using one card as there is no sli profile for SH5.

Seaman_Hornsby 06-30-10 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelViking (Post 1430968)
I am serious, try the fix I posted. If you have more than enough system resources, that means it is the game engine's fault. The only way I get the stuttering to stop for me is to decompress mass generated .dds files.

I gave it a try but it made no difference. I've never seen a game behave like this, so I'm a bit at a loss. Example: I'm hovering over the open ocean with the external camera. I look up at the light clouds drifting by. I've got a solid 50 fps, all fine and dandy. But if I pan the camera around, or even slide along using the movement keys I'll induce the stutter. Watching the fps counter, the framerate actually appears to jump UP during a stutter. :doh: I can see it go up to three digits, then quickly back down to the normal range. :hmmm:

SteelViking 06-30-10 11:17 AM

Wow, that is weird. Do you have any mods installed? If so, could you post a list?

Edit: I have a much bigger version of the fix I posted earlier, It is what I actually use to stop all the stuttering in things like deck waves, shadows, explosions, etc. It may stop the full game stuttering, but I am not positive. If anybody wants to try it, I will PM a link to you, but I would ask that you do not distribute it.

Seaman_Hornsby 06-30-10 11:57 AM

Yes, it is very strange. If I turn off 3D clouds it's smooth as butter. Something specifically related to the way the clouds are rendered seems to cause the strange behavior.

As for mods, I've got a pretty good list going.
Ailclouds 3.0
Accurate German flags
ailimpurity light
ailmoon 1.5
ailwhiteinterior
BaRF 1.3
Doom's Decks
Interior working dials
Mighty fine crew
More crew commands by dialog
More realistic periscopes
No crosshair
No bubbles/halos
Remove login intro movie
ailrain
digital clock
stadimeter fix (with clock patch)
Damage assessment
No surface hydrophone

I've also just tried it with stock clouds and the behavior is still there. I'm pretty sure it was there from the beginning before I added any mods at all. Nothing I've done (v-sync, AA on/off, resolution, mods, affinity, priority, etc) has affected the behavior. Fortunately it's not too noticeable from on board the boat, but if I want to look around with the external camera I'm going to notice it alright. :-?

SteelViking 06-30-10 12:25 PM

Well, if it is clouds that are causing the problem. Try uninstalling all of Ailantd's environmental mods, and install Env 2.5 just to see if that makes it any better. I posted a fully updated link on the thread for Env, so you will not have to do the multiple install patch deal. I think that link is now on the second to last page of that thread.


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