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SteamWake 06-15-10 02:49 PM

"Crafted to boost hispanic representation..."
 
I could not believe my eyes when I saw this headline, then I read the story and .... what in the hell !!!! :shifty:

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Furano cast multiple votes on the instructions of a federal judge and the U.S. Department of Justice as part of a new election system crafted to help boost Hispanic representation.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100615/...ights_election

tater 06-15-10 02:54 PM

That is... wow, just wow.

AVGWarhawk 06-15-10 02:54 PM

WTF is a village? I have heard of city, state, local, town, municipality. The last time I heard village I think a dragon was attacking. What a dumb idea this was. I think we need to raid the village with pitch fork and flaming torches. :yeah:

Morts 06-15-10 03:00 PM

what a load of S***

UnderseaLcpl 06-15-10 03:21 PM

Whoa, take it easy, guys. This is about equal opportunity, which can sometimes means equal outcome. It's about making sure that the Hispanic population is represented adequately, and that it votes adequately......and maybe more than adequately, should somebody need to get into office.


Honestly, this whole thing sickens me. Thank God it's in that sorry excuse for a state that we call New York and not in a decent state. Not much has changed since the days of Tammany Hall, it would seem.

While the act itself is actually quite legal, the spirit of it is deploreable. It spits in the face of the idea of equality under the law and fair representation of the people. Our system of government was designed to protect the minority and guarantee the freedom of the individual, but this kind of crap is only there to ensure that the will of some becomes the representation of most and the will of one. Randolph McLaughlin is on my s*** list.

Tribesman 06-15-10 03:27 PM

wow, its an old and well used system which gives results more like proportional representation.
That is absolutely shocking.:yawn:

tater 06-15-10 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1420074)
wow, its an old and well used system which gives results more like proportional representation.
That is absolutely shocking.:yawn:

It's completely shocking.

I'm a german-swedish-irish-french american. If my "kind" is not exactly represented in congress, I deserve extra votes!

Nonsense.

There are no "hispanic" voters in the US. There are only AMERICAN voters. What your surname happens to be, or what tone your skin is is meaningless. One man, one vote. Man, as in mankind, Homo sapiens. Any other silly distinctions are just that, silly.

Ducimus 06-15-10 03:39 PM

>>There are only AMERICAN voters


Yeah, ill never understand why people hyphenate themselves. I've never liked it when people fly a foreign flag over/on top of/instead of, the US flag. If they're so proud of that country, WTF are they doing here then? Seems like for awhile now, there hasn't been much intergration. Just self segregation and drawing of lines. Honestly im surpised this is happening in NY and not CA. Then again, Hispanic probably already IS the majority vote here.

Tchocky 06-15-10 03:45 PM

Psh. It's just a voting system.

GoldenRivet 06-15-10 03:52 PM

and yet there continue to be those American's who will just sleep right through this too.

America... you're still snoozing.:nope:





how hard do they have to shake your bed?

Tribesman 06-15-10 04:03 PM

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One man, one vote.
Yet one man several votes is used in many places and in many circumsatances, its not like its new as its been used in America for well over 100 years.

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There are no "hispanic" voters in the US. There are only AMERICAN voters.
Tell that to the Americans.:rotfl2:
But you are wrong anyway as there are lots of non-American voters and lots of hispanic voters too. It all depends on the election in question, and like cumalative voting it is as old as the hills.

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If my "kind" is not exactly represented in congress, I deserve extra votes!
Representation?????didn't you lot have a revolution over that:yeah:
Besides which it isn't someone getting extra votes as everyone gets the same amount.

Skybird 06-15-10 04:19 PM

Just to be sure I get it right: first I thought that only some people - Hispanics - would get six votes, while other stay with one, but that first ipression was wrong yes? ALL voters no matter their district and ethnicity get six votes, yes?

Okay, way to make things complicated over fears of lacking political correctness, but despite being idiotic, one could live with the method. Just that judges think they must mess around with the outcome of elections because the results are not the wanted ones - that one would worry me.

Tchocky 06-15-10 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1420126)
Just to be sure I get it right: first I thought that only some people - Hispanics - would get six votes, while other stay with one, but that first ipression was wrong yes? ALL voters no matter their district and ethnicity get six votes, yes?

As far as I can se it, yes.

But it's much more fun to think that minorities are getting lots more votes.-

SteamWake 06-15-10 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1420126)
Just that judges think they must mess around with the outcome of elections because the results are not the wanted ones - that one would worry me.

What other motive could there be? Putting extra vote counters in work? :haha:

Pioneer 06-15-10 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1420084)
>>There are only AMERICAN voters


Yeah, ill never understand why people hyphenate themselves. I've never liked it when people fly a foreign flag over/on top of/instead of, the US flag. If they're so proud of that country, WTF are they doing here then? .


Side issue: I fly my home country and US flag side by side because I haven't earned the right YET to be considered USAmerican. I can't vote because I legally immigrated, sat outside the country until my paperwork was processed, agreed to a higher standard of laws that citizens, and have a waiting period of 7 years.

I love my new country, and will stand shoulder to shoulder in defense, but this vote is an atrocity.


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