Scared of the Hedgehog
 

Hi all. I was thinking back to a year or so ago when i last played SH3 before coming back to it recently. Around the period of 1942-43 I was more often than not killed by a new weapon developed by the Royal Navy that scared the begezus out of me every time. It was the Hedgehog anti submarine weapon. Right now i'm only at Dec 1940, so right now i can breath easy. :-?

Has anyone else come across this recently in their campaigns and how does it make you feel?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog_(weapon)

:salute:

they are especially deadly in shallow waters. :cry:
don't like them at all!

I hate the Hedgehog and I haven't even run into it yet since it's Q1 1941 in my current career.

What's the best defense against Hedgehog other than to not have it fired at you? There has to be some way to deal with it, even if the Germans back then wouldn't have known it.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1265/hedgehogd.jpg

Its coming to get you....Ruuuuuuun!

The only defense I can think of would be constant changing of course when being pursued. Since it is a contact weapon, avoid contact if possible.
Is there a limit in the game on reloads and time to reload of the weapon, cause that was a weak spot with it.
It was complicated, "buggy", and took time to reload.

Your best defence (if you identify an escort armed as such and heading your way) is to put it to the top of your list of priorities, targetwise and take it out.

In '44 most escorts are equipped with it so putting an eel in every escort is not really an option. Oh and unless you cheat use free cam, there is no way to tell which one has and which one doesn't. Last career I had a hell of a time with those things, there is no evasive action against those really, they explode on impact no matter how deep you are... Just run silent, run deep and pray to what ever God you believe in. Good news is they have less then a dozen salvos each of this stuff, so just pray and try to attrite them...

From Das Boot: "The more they shoot the sooner they'll run out." :rock:

Its really difficult to escape from those destroyers throwing hedgehogs and depth charges at the same time. Furthermore, there will always be another destroyer (at least) equipped with this weapon looking for you. The psychotic persistence with which the destroyers keep searching for me, the constant ping-sound, the efficiency of these weapons, the tension during the attack run of a destroyer and the agony during the waiting of the next attack run usually make me think that i did really bad attacking that convoy!:shifty:

I know its only a game but it is this very game that frequently puts me under stress. This is why i decided to stop positioning myself among the convoy columns and make long shots instead ; '43 onwards, that is. Who cares about tonnage? Its '43 and its evident that the allies are going to win. Hit (if you can) and run (metaphorically speaking since one of the things you can't grant to Uboats is high underwater speed - relative to surface boats speed). And deep, deep as much as you can.:-?

Who cares about tonnage? Its '43 and its evident that the allies are going to win.

I agree. At this point I seek only unescorted vessels and with a sharp eye to the sky. No sense being a dead war hero. Live to fight another day.

You can say that again...:yep::up:

I also agree that in '43 or so the focus has to shift away from sinking ships and more toward trying to help my crew (an me) survive the war. It is clear the Ubootwaffe can no longer change the outcome of the war. The boats keep getting sent out to tie down allied forces that would otherwise be used against the homeland, so just being out there and forcing the allies to respond is doing ones duty. (Don't know if the crews of the time understood that, but having read Donitz's memoirs, it's clear that was the goal).

Hello Redbear,

Could you tell me the title of this book, please?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Xwi7xd27As...ich-317233.jpg

Anyone for a hedgehog sandwich?

Doenitz wrote two books after the war, only one of which has been translated to English as far as I know. The title, in English, is Memoirs: Ten Years and Twenty Days, available from Amazon. Shop through Subsim and keep Uncle Neal happy! It's definitely worth owning, in my opinion.

It could almost EAT you! :haha: