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Reinhard Dietz 04-08-10 06:18 PM

I'm tellin' y'all, it's sabotage!
 
So I'm cruising about while submerged at or about periscope depth. All of a sudden, I've got damage to the stern torpedo tube and minor, but extensive, damage to the electric engine compartment and 1% hull damage. My capable crew repaired all the listed items in two minutes of game time, but I'm left stumped as to what might have bagged me.

I don't have the malfunctions and sabotage option checked in SH3C and I didn't get hit by aircraft, so far as I can tell---that's usually deck and flak gun---so go figure. I'm still based at Kiel, so it wasn't an angry Frenchman that did something. I'm tempted to write it off (for log purposes) as mechanical fault---something that wasn't unheard for these boats---but I'd like to know what might have caused it.

Any ideas?

Jimbuna 04-08-10 06:29 PM

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1309/seagullmine.jpg

krashkart 04-08-10 06:51 PM

Bernard! :DL

I've had wtf moments like that before but it was the result of my masterful underwater piloting skills in shallow waters. :oops:

Jim's probably right, though. It was a seagull blocking your view. :O:

Reinhard Dietz 04-08-10 06:59 PM

I'll get that seabird yet; I've got nearly a full load of 20mm for the AAA!

I was under the impression that mines were instantly lethal, but hey, if I get grazed instead of killed, that's fine by me. Meanwhile, I'm now trying to run down a merchant in near zero visibility using only occasional sonar fixes. Meh.

Immelman 04-08-10 08:03 PM

Nice pick jumbuna I :har: for a good 3 minutes!

I have been hit by a mine before while skulking about in the channel... Survived the mine hit but lost my ability to submerge, electric motors kaput! So an airplane nailed me while I was returning my IIA to Kiel :dead:

Vipper 04-08-10 09:48 PM

If it was mine you are were lucky you did survive that. I did hit a mine once...Now i do avoid any place that looks like they might have mines planted there (like channels and british east coast).

Jimbuna 04-09-10 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Vipper (Post 1353065)
If it was mine you are were lucky you did survive that. I did hit a mine once...Now i do avoid any place that looks like they might have mines planted there (like channels and british east coast).

Good tip http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...s/thumbsup.gif

papa_smurf 04-09-10 05:38 AM

It was Bernard. He likes to "help" in your u-boat, but ends up causing all sorts of trouble. The best way to avoid this is to either: 1 - leave him at port, or failing that; 2- stick him where he cant cause any damage, i.e the aft torpedo tube:yep:

krashkart 04-09-10 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1352849)

That is a cute pic, though. It has me scratching my head wondering how you sandwiched the bird between the background and the graticule, too. :up:

Jimbuna 04-09-10 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by krashkart (Post 1353376)
That is a cute pic, though. It has me scratching my head wondering how you sandwiched the bird between the background and the graticule, too. :up:

Not my picture :DL

Paul Riley 04-09-10 07:00 AM

On my return from my 2nd patrol I am planning a return trip through the channel,but my only concern are the apparent mines which so far I have been unable to find as I have never hit one.Can someone tell me,are they laid across the dover strait opening in a line?,or are they dotted around the main ports?
I may abort this risky move and head around Scotland instead.

Immelman 04-09-10 07:31 AM

I am assuming you are using GWX or NYGM mod. If so :-? unless you have a death wish I would avoid the channel like the plague... Its infested with DDs it has mines and nets forcing you towards the center of the channel where the DDs are waiting to rip you a new one.

If you are running SH3 stock then by all means nothing to it.

Paul Riley 04-09-10 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Immelman (Post 1353434)
I am assuming you are using GWX or NYGM mod. If so :-? unless you have a death wish I would avoid the channel like the plague... Its infested with DDs it has mines and nets forcing you towards the center of the channel where the DDs are waiting to rip you a new one.

If you are running SH3 stock then by all means nothing to it.

I play with GWX3,Commander,and a variety of mods,and have already made a safe passage through the channel at the beginning of my patrol.I know I can make it through I just need to know where the mines are expected to be,such as,across the Dover strait.
IF I make it through,it will be my last time through the channel as already I have noticed an increase of patrols across the western channel entrance.
I DO in fact travel the channel in the centre keeping away from the ports,moving decks awash in daylight and surfaced at high speed at night.My last sortie I observed many torpedo boats and small patrol craft,nothing particularly formidable...for now.

Reinhard Dietz 04-09-10 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley (Post 1353415)
On my return from my 2nd patrol I am planning a return trip through the channel,but my only concern are the apparent mines which so far I have been unable to find as I have never hit one.Can someone tell me,are they laid across the dover strait opening in a line?,or are they dotted around the main ports?
I may abort this risky move and head around Scotland instead.

If I were you, I'd do what I've done since the days of Aces of the Deep and run around Scotland, going north of the Shetlands and just south of the Faeroes. It takes (comparatively) forever, but your only risk in 1939-40 is the odd Hurricane or Swordfish. The routing that worked for me in late May/early June 1940 was using AF87-84-73-72-71 and then staying in the deep water near the coast of Norway.

I suppose I'll need to dig around and find if there's a mine barrage in The Minch in AM37 in the stock campaign---I'd doubt it since I was there for something like a week running all over the place. Oh well!

The good news is that little permanent damage was done and I went on to find a convoy that's now short a T3 and a T2. The epic 12+ hour sprint at flank speed of U-48 through the worst in-game weather possible to rendezvous with the convoy and stalk a pair of tankers shall always be remembered! :arrgh!:

Paul Riley 04-09-10 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Reinhard Dietz (Post 1353440)
If I were you, I'd do what I've done since the days of Aces of the Deep and run around Scotland, going north of the Shetlands and just south of the Faeroes. It takes (comparatively) forever, but your only risk in 1939-40 is the odd Hurricane or Swordfish. The routing that worked for me in late May/early June 1940 was using AF87-84-73-72-71 and then staying in the deep water near the coast of Norway.

I suppose I'll need to dig around and find if there's a mine barrage in The Minch in AM37 in the stock campaign---I'd doubt it since I was there for something like a week running all over the place. Oh well!

The good news is that little permanent damage was done and I went on to find a convoy that's now short a T3 and a T2. The epic 12+ hour sprint at flank speed of U-48 through the worst in-game weather possible to rendezvous with the convoy and stalk a pair of tankers shall always be remembered! :arrgh!:

If I feel the threat is significant as I approach the western channel I will turn back and head around the back door and around Scotland,then SSE towards Wilhelmshaven,I shall have no need to hug the Norwegian coast just yet,air cover is practically nil at the moment :sunny:


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