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toby66 03-10-10 04:18 PM

External cam fixed on own U-Boot?
 
Does anyone now how to fix the external camera on the own U-Boot? I'm following my boat with the asdw-key like nuts.

But what I'd like to do, is sit back and enjoy the riding through the waves for a while. Was possible in SH3 and SHIV, so what about V?

kylania 03-10-10 04:58 PM

It's been tried using the methods from earlier games but ended up breaking things.

Mud 03-10-10 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toby66 (Post 1306917)
Does anyone now how to fix the external camera on the own U-Boot? I'm following my boat with the asdw-key like nuts.

But what I'd like to do, is sit back and enjoy the riding through the waves for a while. Was possible in SH3 and SHIV, so what about V?

+1

I really hope the Devs will fix this, I miss this feature big time :oops:

Mud

toby66 03-10-10 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mud (Post 1307017)
+1

I really hope the Devs will fix this, I miss this feature big time :oops:

Mud

Yep. One could argue that it isn't a huge thing. But for a player like me, who just loves to adore his boat and kick in some good vibes from the gramaphone, it makes quite a difference. :yep:

Mud 03-10-10 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toby66 (Post 1307082)
Yep. One could argue that it isn't a huge thing. But for a player like me, who just loves to adore his boat and kick in some good vibes from the gramaphone, it makes quite a difference. :yep:

Grammaphone at sunset see the bow plowing through the waves, it gets me in a mood I canŽt explain :yeah:

Mud

dcb 03-11-10 01:19 AM

So, to sum in up...
In SH3, external camera worked for ships and planes, but crashed on land units.
In SH4, it lost ability to track planes and worked only for ships.
In SH5, it's messed even for ships.
This is how the series "evolved":nope:

Snacko 03-12-10 01:23 PM

I just bought this today and you have got to be kidding me?!! For me this is just basic to any game to be able to view the person or object you are simulating!! This is a joke right? I find it impossible to believe that in a 3D game in 2010, you cannot look at the object you are in.

Jokes aside, please, what is the key to view my sub? Or just any other object?

IRISH4Life 03-12-10 01:45 PM

SNACKO,

Just click the circle in the upper left hand corner it clicks to an outside camera. Hope that helps.

The game is pretty nice once you add some of the old mods that made SH3 and SH4 the great games they were.

IRISH4life

Decoman 03-12-10 02:13 PM

I don't remember how SH3 was, but I imagine that it would be nice to be able to goto external camera, and then press a hotkey for simply parenting the camera to the uboat's horisontal movement. Like a toggle, on and off.

Then I imagine that one would be free to move the now parented camera around, allowing to change its position yet still following the movement of the uboat.

ATR-42 03-12-10 02:34 PM

in the commands.cfg file i assigned the > < keys to next and previous unit. it did just like it did for SH4. it followed the uboat and would cycle to nearby units.

i did however read that it was buggy, although i didnt experience any problems myself. I did put the command lines back the way they were as to not have any future issues. i might revisit it.

Mud 03-12-10 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATR-42 (Post 1311275)
in the commands.cfg file i assigned the > < keys to next and previous unit. it did just like it did for SH4. it followed the uboat and would cycle to nearby units.

i did however read that it was buggy, although i didnt experience any problems myself. I did put the command lines back the way they were as to not have any future issues. i might revisit it.

IŽll try it later, behind a laptop atm.
Me already had a look in the command config and the keys are assigned but not working.

Mud

ATR-42 03-12-10 03:40 PM

[Cmd50]
Name=Camera_on_next_unit
Contexts=1,15
Key0=0xBE,,">"
Page=0x34000000,3714

[Cmd51]
Name=Camera_on_prev_unit
Contexts=1,15
Key0=0xBC,,"<"
Page=0x34000000,3714



i just tried it. it does act strangely. when you enable this, you cant 'cycle' back to your sub, say if you were on the bridge or periscope station, it will just cycle you to an exterior view. Also i have a tweaked camera file that allows free movement within the proximity bubble of the units that normally keeps you at a distance, when using this command it keeps you outside that bubble. it must be looking at another file? its just odd.:hmmm:

Decoman 03-12-10 04:35 PM

The code there has a "context" parameter. From what I understood (guessing), this parameter allow the code to execute, when the camera is in one context or the other. So the two commands listed are probably only available for use in context 1 and 15 (whatever that is).

Being inside the sub is probably one context, using the external camera is probably another context. The context parameters are listed there somewhere, maybe at the top of the file.

I have never modded for this game so please bear with me if I am in error.

sergei 03-12-10 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATR-42 (Post 1311391)
i just tried it. it does act strangely. when you enable this, you cant 'cycle' back to your sub,

This has been bugging the hell out of me for a week now.
When I first got the game I re-enabled the prev/next cam buttons.
I'm sure I got it to work, but only sometimes. Some others have reported it working intermittently too.

Finally just figured it out.
It depends on where the camera is when you first hit the > key.

Try this.
Re-enable the keys. Stand on the bridge.
Hit F2 FIRST, to go to external cam. Hit the prev/next unit buttons. Camera cycles properly. F2 then brings you back onto the bridge.

HOWEVER
If you are standing on the bridge and just hit the next unit button from there, F2 will not bring you back onto the bridge.

Seems the key is to always cycle to external cam first.

ATR-42 03-12-10 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sergei (Post 1311761)
Try this.
Re-enable the keys. Stand on the bridge.
Hit F2 FIRST, to go to external cam. Hit the prev/next unit buttons. Camera cycles properly. F2 then brings you back onto the bridge.

HOWEVER
If you are standing on the bridge and just hit the next unit button from there, F2 will not bring you back onto the bridge.

I concur, nice find. i couldnt nail down any rhyme or reason but what you said is how mine behaves too. i have not tried different "context" modifications... :hmmm:


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