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Torvald Von Mansee 01-20-10 04:37 PM

Obama is spineless
 
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Politics/pr...ory?id=9611222

Would Dubya have waited to ram through legislation he was in favor of? Hell no!!! If you try to please everyone, you'll fail!!!!

SteamWake 01-20-10 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee (Post 1241234)
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Politics/pr...ory?id=9611222

Would Dubya have waited to ram through legislation he was in favor of? Hell no!!! If you try to please everyone, you'll fail!!!!

I think your wrong. Bush would have listened to the will of the american pepole instead of committing political suicide.

AVGWarhawk 01-20-10 04:42 PM

Once again, you have witnessed the voice of the people. The seat went to a Republican. A seat that was Ted Kennedy's for decades. Seems the tone is disapproval of the administration and congress as a whole. As far as ramming it down our throats, that is what got them here to begin with. Effectively Obummer and co are drafting a Democratic defeat in the next elections.

GoldenRivet 01-20-10 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1241245)
Effectively Obummer and co are drafting a Democratic defeat in the next elections.

beyond the shadow of any doubt.

:yeah:

good riddance.

you cant nationalize the election booth Obama... Enjoy your short stay in the white house.

Buddahaid 01-20-10 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1241239)
I think your wrong. Bush would have listened to the will of the american pepole instead of committing political suicide.

Bah, they all have selective hearing and do as they see fit. If they do things you (speaking in generalizations) like, it's the voice of the people, if not, then they are reckless fools that ignore the people. I personally believe they all try to do what's best as they see it.

CaptainHaplo 01-20-10 07:53 PM

While I won't speak to spineless - he sure does have an odd reason for why Brown won...

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"People are angry and they are frustrated. Not just because of what's happened in the last year or two years, but what's happened over the last eight years."
So let me get this right Mr. President... Its George Bush's FAULT that Scott Brown got elected in Mass?

Ya'll know the saying that someone has "gone off the deep end"? Well, I get the feeling that a number of liberals right now are making the deep end - even deeper....

Buddahaid 01-20-10 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo (Post 1241480)
Ya'll know the saying that someone has "gone off the deep end"? Well, I get the feeling that a number of liberals right now are making the deep end - even deeper....

Not possible! I'm sure conservatives dug it as far as it could go already. ;)

ETR3(SS) 01-21-10 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 1241533)
Not possible! I'm sure conservatives dug it as far as it could go already. ;)

And I'm sure it was a team effort. :03:

mookiemookie 01-21-10 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1241245)
Once again, you have witnessed the voice of the people. The seat went to a Republican. A seat that was Ted Kennedy's for decades. Seems the tone is disapproval of the administration and congress as a whole. As far as ramming it down our throats, that is what got them here to begin with. Effectively Obummer and co are drafting a Democratic defeat in the next elections.

You got all of that from a state election? I remember when local elections were about local issues and not a showdown duel to the death referendum on the entire state of the country.

I think you all are ascribing way too much significance to this.

CaptainHaplo 01-21-10 06:42 AM

Mookie - I hope that the current leadership of the Democratic party sees it the same way you do. If so, they will no longer be leading the Democrats after the mid-term elections this year, or at least their hold on the rest of their party will be further weakened.

The current leadership of the left isn't just left - its what is termed "nascar" left - or "when in doubt - turn left again". That isn't what the country wants, and when the rank and file of the Dems see that, they will retake control of their own party and be able to again also offer palatable alternatives to the full electorate.

mookiemookie 01-21-10 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo (Post 1241906)
Mookie - I hope that the current leadership of the Democratic party sees it the same way you do. If so, they will no longer be leading the Democrats after the mid-term elections this year, or at least their hold on the rest of their party will be further weakened.

The current leadership of the left isn't just left - its what is termed "nascar" left - or "when in doubt - turn left again". That isn't what the country wants, and when the rank and file of the Dems see that, they will retake control of their own party and be able to again also offer palatable alternatives to the full electorate.

I think you misread the Dems. Most of the tried and true backers are mad because they're not left enough.

AVGWarhawk 01-21-10 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1241777)
You got all of that from a state election? I remember when local elections were about local issues and not a showdown duel to the death referendum on the entire state of the country.

I think you all are ascribing way too much significance to this.

Ted Kennedy had that seat for decades. DECADES. That state is a blue as it gets. And yes, I got that and not just from this election, NJ and VA we experienced the same thing. Obummer is befuddled. The country is discontent with the likes of Pelosi and Co. Obummer happens to be the leader of it.

SteamWake 01-21-10 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1242006)
I think you misread the Dems. Most of the tried and true backers are mad because they're not left enough.

Moderat democrats do not exist evidently.

Stealth Hunter 01-21-10 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1242083)
Moderat democrats do not exist evidently.

I must say that I too am not too familiar with many Moderat Democrats.:haha:

SteamWake 01-22-10 12:07 PM

There mid size rats :haha:

Stupid typos :doh:

Moderate fer cryin out loud.


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