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Onkel Neal 12-17-09 12:17 PM

First review of Cameron's Avatar
 
It does seem like the great action movie I've been waiting for.

Review, some plot setup, no real spoilers.

FIREWALL 12-17-09 12:29 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing this movie and later buying it in bluray.

A mixture of animation and real actors is fascinating.

Tho wasn't this kinda done in Beowolf ?

Dowly 12-17-09 01:49 PM

My main concern is that this'll be a "techdemo" movie. Showing off "Hey look at us, we spend ****loads of money and made these CG characters! Arent we cool!!??".

Looking at the trailer, Beowolf looked much more realistic with their CG characters. :yep:

But worry not Cameron, you have hyped this movie so much that ppl will see it and you get money, fortunate for you one has to pay BEFORE seeing the movie, tho. :O:

Skybird 12-17-09 02:12 PM

From the trailers and excerpts I have seen I got the impression of a video game constructed around very earthly standard motives for a very earthly standard plot. Probably visually entertaining, technically a demo like Dowly said, and by content and story: nothing remarkable.

I'm all for stunning visual presentation - if it serves the purpose of transporting a good, complex story and believable character depiction. If the technical overkill is just self-purpose, and story and character psychology let me down, I tend to stay unimpressed nowadays. a good movie has not just one of these three factors, but all three of them.

GoldenRivet 12-17-09 02:30 PM

My interest level in "Avatar" has been resting right at zero since i first heard of it.

i dont know, maybe it will be the "star wars" of the current generation... but for me to get excited about something, my skirt has to be blown WAY up over my head these days.

and Avatar just isn't doing it for me.;)

SteamWake 12-17-09 02:43 PM

From the article

Quote:

Cameron cheerfully concedes that the human race may be bound for extinction—he sets his story in 2154, when earth's resources will already have been depleted
Is that a 'message movie' I smell? :shifty:

Sailor Steve 12-17-09 02:48 PM

Possibly, but that could also make Mad Max or A Boy and His Dog 'message movies'.

SteamWake 12-17-09 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1220976)
Possibly, but that could also make Mad Max or A Boy and His Dog 'message movies'.

True I guess I will have to see it to know for certain.

Weiss Pinguin 12-17-09 02:55 PM

I do really want to see this movie,
BUT

Everywhere I read it seems like lots of people are making this out to some groundbreaking new project. James Cameron has done lots of groundbreaking work, but IMO this looks like it'll be another action movie. Sure it'll have cool effects, but I don't really see how this is so much more advanced than any other action movie coming out in the next year.

But yeah, I do still want to see it :O:

Catfish 12-18-09 09:12 AM

Hello,
Cameron spent a lot of years (10+) for his "Avatar", and when the asking began to become a pita he used to say "the technical stuff isn't ready yet" - seems the graphic potential is ready now. For him it was a real heart thing, and i guess i will see it anyway, regardless how the critics develop :DL

But then it just seems he put the conquering of the north american continent a few years into the future, so it might be better to digest (with some "distance") lol. Well it's not so easy, Cameron seems to think there's a solution for all, as long as you have the technical stuff .. :-?

Greetings,
Catfish

Onkel Neal 12-18-09 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1220976)
Possibly, but that could also make Mad Max or A Boy and His Dog 'message movies'.

Awesome reference! The girl that led Don Johnson into the other world, she looked exactly like my first wife. :shucks:

Avatar, tickets bought, will see it this afternoon at 3pm. We'll see...

AVGWarhawk 12-18-09 09:46 AM

I'm interested in your take on the movie Neal. Perhaps I will take my girls over the Christmas break if you think it is worthy. :yeah:

nikimcbee 12-18-09 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1220976)
Possibly, but that could also make Mad Max or A Boy and His Dog 'message movies'.

I heard one review of it that described it like "Dances with Wolves". :hmmm: wait, Ol' Mcbee just had an idea...SH5 "Dances with Wolves.":haha:

goldorak 12-18-09 01:39 PM

CG is so fake that I can't stand it anymore.
A little bit is necessary in films, but when the only real thing are actors forget it. If I have to see a videogame then I'll play one on my computer thank you very much, in the end its even more interactive than what I can experience at the movie theater.
Oh and lets not forget that silly 3d thing that requires a pair of polarized glasses. Call me when real 3d is ready and doesn't require to wear a pair of freaking glasses just to enjoy a movie.
:shucks:

Buddahaid 12-18-09 02:30 PM

I'd rather watch balsa wood rockets on a string with sparklers!

Buddahaid


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