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SteamWake 12-10-09 11:36 AM

Walking the tight rope
 
I will have to give Obama credit where credit is due.

Never before have I witnessed such fine balance while straddeling the fence.

Quote:

OSLO (AP) - President Barack Obama entered the pantheon of Nobel Peace Prize winners Thursday with humble words, acknowledging his own few accomplishments while delivering a robust defense of war and promising to use the prestigious award to "reach for the world that ought to be."
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091210/D9CGG6680.html

But as always there is an example of "you cant please all of the pepole all of the time".

Quote:

Barack Obama's trip to Oslo to pick up his Nobel peace award is in danger of being overshadowed by a row over the cancellation of a series of events normally attended by the prizewinner.
Norwegians are incensed over what they view as his shabby response to the prize by cutting short his visit.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ace-prize-snub

Skybird 12-10-09 12:03 PM

Just have read over excerpts in german. It seems he subscribed the audience a big dose of realism for which it was not prepared. German commentators say the applaus was rare compared to earlier laureats, and the atmosphere was sub-optimal. Well, they got what they deserved, i think. If somebody thought he could influence Oabma to become an international Ghandi by stupidly giving him that prize, since today he probably knows better.

frau kaleun 12-10-09 12:11 PM

Quote:

Norwegians are incensed over what they view as his shabby response to the prize by cutting short his visit.
Well, naturally, he should've stayed longer. It's not like he's got any other demands on his time. :O:

SteamWake 12-10-09 12:16 PM

Just keep in mind that at least half the 'audiance' did not feel lilke he deserved the prize in the first place. Of course their reception was mixed.

But yea they dont like their pie in the sky happy place disturbed by reality at all.

Snestorm 12-10-09 12:26 PM

Does anybody have any idé what he did to deserve this award?

ETR3(SS) 12-10-09 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1217168)
Does anybody have any idé what he did to deserve this award?

YES! He had all these great ideas for the world. Based on that logic I should be getting mine in the mail here in a couple of days.:haha:

Snestorm 12-10-09 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS) (Post 1217175)
YES! He had all these great ideas for the world. Based on that logic I should be getting mine in the mail here in a couple of days.:haha:

I hope it's not too late because, THIS is the Post Of The Year.

So funny, and yet so true.

Skybird 12-10-09 04:36 PM

The speech was brilliant again, and typical for the best of Obama's speeches. However, I separate the rethorical brilliance, and the deed in reality. He is the best rethoirical speaker I have ever witnessed in my life. If only his deeds and political acts would be en par.

I can not escape to be amazed of how different the reactions of commentators in the German press are, no other speech I have seen to trigger so very different, polarised assessements. Some commentators write the audience was cool and at best: polite but distanced, others said the audience spend ovations and some even were moved to tears. Never before have I read so extremely different reactions in the German press about one of Obama's speeches.

I can only guess that those subscribing to a form of naive pacifism that thinks by just wishing well and rejecting force in principal it can change the world, describe Obama's speech and reactions to it as not so good, and those following a more realistic perception of things, liked it better.

Snestorm 12-10-09 04:54 PM

The danish press came across pretty neutral.:
Here is what usualy happens.
Here is what did happen.
Here is who recieved the award in the past.
And more or less left it at that.

I didn't find the list of past recipiants to be very impressive.

SteamWake 12-10-09 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1217298)
I can not escape to be amazed of how different the reactions of commentators in the German press are, no other speech I have seen to trigger so very different, polarised assessements. Some commentators write the audience was cool and at best: polite but distanced, others said the audience spend ovations and some even were moved to tears. Never before have I read so extremely different reactions in the German press about one of Obama's speeches.

There following the US press lead ;)

One thing is almost certain and that is somewhere between the two lies the truth.

SteamWake 12-10-09 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1217306)
The danish press came across pretty neutral.:
Here is what usualy happens.
Here is what did happen.
Here is who recieved the award in the past.
And more or less left it at that.

I didn't find the list of past recipiants to be very impressive.

Not since the 50-60's now its just a popularity contest evidently.

Skybird 12-10-09 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1217306)
I didn't find the list of past recipiants to be very impressive.

Maybe the prize should be changed: to being given to the best Science Fiction author. :D

OneToughHerring 12-10-09 05:17 PM

The reason behind why the Norwegians gave him the prize and didn't want Obama to leave so soon and got angry when he did...well let's just say the people in Norway, Sweden and Denmark really like Obama.


And to be precise...



...it's the guys who like him.



Ewwww! :DL

Snestorm 12-10-09 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1217318)
The reason behind why the Norwegians gave him the prize and didn't want Obama to leave so soon and got angry when he did...well let's just say the people in Norway, Sweden and Denmark really like Obama.


And to be precise...



...it's the guys who like him.



Ewwww! :DL

This one doesn't. And he doesn't like you either.

OneToughHerring 12-10-09 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1217320)
And he doesn't like you either.

*phew*

It's also worth remembering that christianity, the guys in long robes who fancy little kids, came to Finland from Sweden.

This was the original Finnish response to this Swedish religion.


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