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geetrue 07-06-09 12:24 PM

Saudis Would Allow Israel to Attack Iran
 
Just a matter of time and then it will be all over :yep:
or will it ever be over ... I don't think so: London Sunday Times said fly over ok'ed


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Originally Posted by Avraham Zuroff
Saudi Arabia would turn the other cheek and allow Israel to use its airspace to attack Iran, London’s Sunday Times reports. According to the report, Mossad chief Meir Dagan has told Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu that Syria has hinted to the move.

“The Saudis have tacitly agreed to the Israel air force flying through their airspace on a mission which is supposed to be in the common interests of both Israel and Saudi Arabia,” a diplomatic source stated.

“The Saudis are very concerned about an Iranian nuclear bomb, even more that the Israelis,” a former Israeli intelligence head stated.

John Bolton, the former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., said that it was logical that Saudi Arabia would privately agree. “None of them would say anything about it publicly, but they would certainly acquiesce in an overflight if the Israelis didn’t trumpet it as a big success,” Bolton told several Arab leaders in the Gulf. “To this day, the Israelis haven’t admitted the specifics, but there’s one less nuclear facility in Syria,” Bolton added, referring to Israel’s attack on a Syrian nuclear site in 2007.

Bolton said that the Arab countries would publicly condemn Israel at the U.N. but would breathe easier if the Iranian nuclear threat would be eliminated.



Several media sources reported Friday that an Israeli Dolphin submarine passed through the Suez Canal on its way to the Red Sea last month as part of a naval exercise. Israeli security officials told the Reuters news agency that the exercise was done as part of testing Israel’s strategy in light of the Iranian nuclear threat. Egypt denied the reports.


CastleBravo 07-06-09 12:49 PM

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Several media sources reported Friday that an Israeli Dolphin submarine passed through the Suez Canal on its way to the Red Sea last month as part of a naval exercise. Israeli security officials told the Reuters news agency that the exercise was done as part of testing Israel’s strategy in light of the Iranian nuclear threat. Egypt denied the reports.
Does Israel have a TLAM capability?

Raptor1 07-06-09 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CastleBravo (Post 1129700)
Does Israel have a TLAM capability?

TLAM? As in Tomahawk Land Attack Missile? No

It has been surmised that the larger torpedo tubes on the Dolphins could be used to carry cruise missiles though

CastleBravo 07-06-09 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1 (Post 1129702)
TLAM? As in Tomahawk Land Attack Missile? No

It has been surmised that the larger torpedo tubes on the Dolphins could be used to carry cruise missiles though

So some generic and/or home produced land attack missile is a possibility.

PeriscopeDepth 07-06-09 01:58 PM

Supposedly a sub launched version of Popeye or SLAM IIRC. And not a possibility, I would bet my life on it being a pretty sure thing. Israel uses those subs as a second strike option.

PD

geetrue 07-06-09 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth (Post 1129748)
Supposedly a sub launched version of Popeye or SLAM IIRC. And not a possibility, I would bet my life on it being a pretty sure thing. Israel uses those subs as a second strike option.

PD


or to pick up downed pilots that make it back to the sea :yep:

Raptor1 07-06-09 02:27 PM

The Popeye doesn't have enough range for this purpose, an enlarged version of it or a variant of the Delilah missile might be able to do it. Though I think a submarine attack is highly unlikely.

CastleBravo 07-06-09 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue (Post 1129756)
or to pick up downed pilots that make it back to the sea :yep:

Now we know the egress route. And the persian gulf is chock full of US assets.

Also on Monday the US and Russia signed an agreement allowing US flights over Russian territory. The correct IFF could be relayed to the Israelis. Also with the Marines in Balem province keeping curious heads down is a possibility for a rush to kabul for a partial dissasembly of aircraft, loaded onto cargo lifters.

Raptor1 07-06-09 02:30 PM

We don't know anything, we don't even know there's going to be a strike...

CastleBravo 07-06-09 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1 (Post 1129766)
We don't know anything, we don't even know there's going to be a strike...

You are correct of course but it never hurts to run through the tactics available. Does it?

geetrue 07-06-09 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1 (Post 1129766)
We don't know anything, we don't even know there's going to be a strike...

Sombody knows, plus look at the timing with the enmies of Iran on your side not to mention the internal conflict of who is lying to who about the election.

What happens when a j bomb hits a nuclear installation anyway?

Raptor1 07-06-09 02:53 PM

What's a j bomb?

CastleBravo 07-06-09 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue (Post 1129777)
Sombody knows, plus look at the timing with the enmies of Iran on your side not to mention the internal conflict of who is lying to who about the election.

What happens when a j bomb hits a nuclear installation anyway?

Don't get all soft hearted here. Every country gets the government it deserves and if that government hasn't taken steps to protect its people, as can be seen out of the recent images, then folks will die. The deaths from radialogical debris won't be worse than Three Mile Island, and far less than Chernobyl.

geetrue 07-06-09 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1 (Post 1129788)
What's a j bomb?

One of those electronic guided bombs ... The Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM)

Raptor1 07-06-09 03:03 PM

Ah!

If a JDAM, or indeed any other conventional weapon, hits a nuclear facility, said facility may or may not be destroyed depending on the way it's constructed. Any material already stockpiled might similarly be destroyed or scattered (Which could be a pain to clean up, but not anything that has been done before).

If you want to know whether anything earth-shaking will happen beyond the normal explosions, the answer is no.


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