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meduza 06-15-09 11:02 AM

Wrong draft data for Aquitania?
 
Here's what happened, in short: near Malta, I was jumped by a destroyer in the storm. I dived and realized I was almost in the middle of a small convoy. When I escaped, i follow them. The weather cleared and I identified the ships as Aquitania and another smaller troop ship, doing some crazy course changes, almost running in circles. I positioned myself in front for an attacked, when they changed course again. Aquitania ran directly overhead, and we touched. :DL I quickly turned and fired full salvo at her stern from 500m. Her draft is 14m, so i set the depth to almost 15. At least one torpedo must have exploded, but nothing happened. Then I watched Aquitania getting sank by the Luftwaffe. They didn't bother to attack two destroyers who were pounding me nearby.

So I created a single mission with Aquitania, to see what did I do wrong. After many fired torpedoes, I came to the conclusion that her draft is around 12.3m, not 14m as stated in the recognition manual.

The test and the actual attack were done in dead calm seas.

Can someone confirm this?

Ford Prefect 06-15-09 11:42 AM

Well accord to what info I can find online the Aquitania had a draft of 36 feet which equates to a few cm short of 11 meters. So if the game follows that then its little wonder you missed. :nope:

makman94 06-15-09 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by meduza (Post 1117875)
Here's what happened, in short: near Malta, I was jumped by a destroyer in the storm. I dived and realized I was almost in the middle of a small convoy. When I escaped, i follow them. The weather cleared and I identified the ships as Aquitania and another smaller troop ship, doing some crazy course changes, almost running in circles. I positioned myself in front for an attacked, when they changed course again. Aquitania ran directly overhead, and we touched. :DL I quickly turned and fired full salvo at her stern from 500m. Her draft is 14m, so i set the depth to almost 15. At least one torpedo must have exploded, but nothing happened. Then I watched Aquitania getting sank by the Luftwaffe. They didn't bother to attack two destroyers who were pounding me nearby.

So I created a single mission with Aquitania, to see what did I do wrong. After many fired torpedoes, I came to the conclusion that her draft is around 12.3m, not 14m as stated in the recognition manual.

The test and the actual attack were done in dead calm seas.

Can someone confirm this?

that's very interesting discovery of yours Meduza (i think i had the Aquitania in a mission , when i test it i will let you know)

Jimbuna 06-15-09 04:20 PM

In game she should have a draft of 14.78.

Create a test mission in calm weather conditions and set your eels to 15 magnetic.

meduza 06-15-09 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1118104)
In game she should have a draft of 14.78.

Create a test mission in calm weather conditions and set your eels to 15 magnetic.

That's exactly what I did. And it passed way under the keel. Then I gradually decreased the depth until I made a hit. I observed with external camera. 12.5m barely passed under, and 12.25 hit the keel.

Jimbuna 06-15-09 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by meduza (Post 1118108)
That's exactly what I did. And it passed way under the keel. Then I gradually decreased the depth until I made a hit. I observed with external camera. 12.5m barely passed under, and 12.25 hit the keel.

I think the model was by Von Dos....perhaps you might want to contact him, raise his awareness and give him the opportunity to make the necessary correction.

meduza 06-15-09 05:49 PM

Thanks for the info, I'll contact him.

Ford Prefect 06-15-09 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1118121)
I think the model was by Von Dos....perhaps you might want to contact him, raise his awareness and give him the opportunity to make the necessary correction.

Not sure the model needs changing but rather the info on the vessel, as I said in my previous post the real ship didn't have a draft that deep, it appears the model is correct (or close) based upon the torpedo tests by meduza.

I'll go look into it myself in the morning and see what depth settings I need to get a hit.

LGN1 06-15-09 11:25 PM

Has anyone checked the draught value in the *.sim file using S3D? I think this gives the correct number.

VonDos 06-16-09 12:42 PM

MMM is possible i've indicated a wrong draft.
I'll verify when possible, thanks a lot for the info ^_^
PS for correct this bug, if you want a "rapid solution", go to SilentHunterIII\data\sea\nlus_ folder, open your nlus_.cfg file whit notepad, go to "draft" line and set your "favourite" draft.
Same for NLUS__en\\fe\ge museum files. :up:


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