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SUBMAN1 05-02-09 11:34 AM

TSA detains man for simply having cash on him?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YZaholL8nI

Nice.

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AngusJS 05-02-09 10:28 PM

Pathetic. However, I don't think this heralds the arrival of fascism as one of the pundits put it...it's just yet more idiots with badges on a power trip.

JALU3 05-03-09 12:48 AM

How much cash? if you are transporting over X amount, it's illegal.
I think it's like 10K

Edit:
Here are the items you are required to declare. But of course listening to this video, those items that I will list below do not apply.

Quote:

Items you purchased and are carrying with you upon return to the United States.
Items you received as gifts, such as wedding or birthday presents.
Items you inherited.
Items you bought in duty-free shops, on the ship, or on the plane.
Repairs or alterations to any items you took abroad and then brought back, even if the repairs/alterations were performed free of charge.
Items you brought home for someone else.
Items you intend to sell or use in your business
Here is a sample form.

Max2147 05-03-09 01:15 AM

TSA are a bunch of morons. They wouldn't know a security threat if somebody hit them over the head with it.

A few months ago a friend of mine wrote a paper for a national security class and formatted it to look like a DIA briefing. A TSA guy saw it in his bag and got all excited, thinking he'd caught a spy or something.

But it's not just TSA. An immigrations officer in London nearly didn't let me through when she found out I was visiting a Pakistani friend over there. She also demanded to know how I'd gotten the money to pay for my plane ticket.

Platapus 05-03-09 07:58 AM

Not exactly news here.

It is clear that this jerk was setting up the TSA to make a political point.

He just "happened" to have a cell phone recorder handy?
Was belligerently not-answering the TSA questions?
Was carrying an unusual amount of cash in a box and refused to explain why?

Kinda funny that not all of the conversations were broadcast, aint it?

The TSA people acted inappropriately but with good intentions. I hope the TSA will train their people better. They should not let Jerks like this get to them.

This jerk acted inappropriately but with ill intentions. Unfortunately, little will happen to him.

This was hardly the case of a poor innocent citizen being abused by the evil government.

The Jerk got what he wanted at the the expense of the people who are trying to protect us. Hope he feels like a real big man now. He showed them! Yeah big man there. :nope:

Is the protection perfect? No.

Are TSA officials perfect? No.

Does TSA have Jerks working for them? Sure do.

Does TSA have good hard working people working for them? Sure do.

How many of us are willing to take the extremely low paying very long hours position of TSA examiner and have to suffer the constant abuse of bitchy whiny travelers (and Jerks like the ass-hat in the article)? Clearly not too many as my friend who used to be a TSA examiner tells me there is still a critical shortage of examiners in the country.

I say, let's cut them a little slack. They are doing an important job every day, every hour, every minute.

I, for one, am grateful for their efforts. While imperfect, they are trying to keep me and my family just a little bit safer. :salute:

UnderseaLcpl 05-03-09 09:19 AM

I never thought I would ever see someone who is grateful for the TSA, but look at that.

This incident notwithstanding, the TSA is costly, inefficient, and generally ineffective. The fact that some TSA employees work hard or even genuinely care about the safety of the public does not justify its' exsistence. Airport security should be a competitive private-sector concern, maintained by private funds, perhaps with some state or federal subsidy.

As far as this "jerk" is concerned, he was well within his rights to refuse to answer questions. Even if he did set the encounter up purposely, it doesn't change the fact that he has a right to remain silent.
Even so, I wonder what a "proper" response from the TSA would have been. I mean, any agency is naturally going to detain you if they suspect you of illicit activity. Even citizens can do that.
I'm totally on-board with the type of guys who were on the show (Stossel rocks:rock:) but even they can stretch things sometimes.

Tchocky 05-03-09 09:56 AM

Since 2001, every time I've flown through a US airport I've been "randomly" selected for additional screening. Bloody theatrics.

GoldenRivet 05-03-09 12:57 PM

as someone who has spent the last 4 years dealing with the TSA goons on a near daily basis... i assure you they are morons and goons.

i feel that their job - while important - does not warrant some of the activities i have observed over the years.

they are a power hungry organization who has a bad case of "little man syndrome" and they need to get over it or be dismantled altogether.

Die TSA and burn in the deepest parts of hell

this man was well within his rights - i would have sat in silence - and if i said anything it would have been "are you going to give me my belongings and get me through security or am i going to have to sue the TSA for millions?"

GoldenRivet 05-03-09 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JALU3 (Post 1094934)
How much cash? if you are transporting over X amount, it's illegal.
I think it's like 10K

Edit:
Here are the items you are required to declare. But of course listening to this video, those items that I will list below do not apply.


Here is a sample form.

while traveling INTERNATIONALLY

if traveling inside the USA - interstate - it doesnt matter. no knives, guns, sharp sticks or harsh language is about it.

Thomen 05-03-09 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JALU3 (Post 1094934)
How much cash? if you are transporting over X amount, it's illegal.
I think it's like 10K

Edit:
Here are the items you are required to declare. But of course listening to this video, those items that I will list below do not apply.


Here is a sample form.

Bringing more then $10,000 is not illegal. You have to declare it at customs when you enter the country. That's all. However.. no idea what they are going to do if you bring in more cash/values and indeed declared it. Probably lots of paperwork.

GoldenRivet 05-03-09 02:48 PM

i have always written "approximately X dollars and misc gifts etc"

they really never gave a damn.

you dont have to declare anything to fly from State to state inside the USA

Aramike 05-03-09 08:08 PM

Quote:

as someone who has spent the last 4 years dealing with the TSA goons on a near daily basis... i assure you they are morons and goons.

i feel that their job - while important - does not warrant some of the activities i have observed over the years.

they are a power hungry organization who has a bad case of "little man syndrome" and they need to get over it or be dismantled altogether.
I think it's more some of the individuals in the organization rather than the TSA as a whole. I travel frequently and have never had a problem.

However, I think agents who directly interact with the public should be monitored. They pull unprofessional crap like what's in the clip, they should then be fired. Why someone has so much money is none of their business - it has nothing to do with their job.

GoldenRivet 05-03-09 10:07 PM

or an airline pilot (myself) in full uniform, goes through a security check point and has 3 bowls of soup poured in the trash because it is a liquid or gel. :nope:

"thats my dinner for the next 3 nights dude" wasnt an excuse as far as this sh*tass was concerned.

this went on for 3 weeks before they made a special consideration.

im sorry man... but im fully trained, im in the flight deck, I may or may not be an armed FFDO... im at the controls for Christs sake!... and you worry about my chicken noodle soup!?!?!

now they want to control who I allow aboard a privately owned king air when it is the same doctor, his hunting buddies and his son EVERY TIME

its like i know my passengers, i know their families, i have had dinner at their homes and been on the phone congratulating them on the birth of a baby... and the TSA is looking for the right to determine whether or not im allowed to let these people on board their OWN AIRCRAFT!?!?!

GOONS... LOONY TOON GOONS!!!!

UnderseaLcpl 05-03-09 10:37 PM

Yes, they are rather vexxing, aren't they?

My favorite TSA incident was on a military charter flight to Camp Lejeune.
My brother had bought me a Gerber pocketknife for utility use while I was deployed.
Curiously enough, while I was not allowed to board the plane without my M-16A2 assault rifle and M8A1 bayonet (which is like, 6 inches long, and which was endowed, very illegally, with serrations by its' previous owner) I was also not allowed to board with my Gerber pocket knife and its' measly 3" blade.

In the end, I made out okay. I lost my gerber but I stole that awesome bayonet after I got home, and claimed it as a combat loss. Come to think of it, I got a lot of cool stuff by claiming it as a combat loss. Thanks, taxpayers:yeah:

GoldenRivet 05-03-09 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1095407)
Thanks, taxpayers:yeah:

You're welcome


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