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LukeFF 12-30-08 07:25 PM

Shooting up sampans: it wasn't all that easy
 
...as this report from the Pollack shows:

Quote:

1222: Lat. 6d.-05'N; Long. 153d.-27.5'E - periscope sighted object which appeared to be a small sailboat.

1300: Closed object with 20mm. guns manned and 4" gun crew standing by in the conning tower. Determined object to be partly sunk and abandoned sampan of about 10 tons. Closed to 500 yards and fired 180 rounds of 20mm. and 60 rounds of 45 cal. (Thompson Sub Machine Gun) for indoctrination and training purposes. Backed clear, made another run and fired 5 rounds of 4"-50 cal. for same purpose. Results:~ One bird of Nipponese leanings definitely sunk; six more thoroughly scared; sampan now draws about two feet more water; 4" gun crew abashed because sampan was not blown out of the water.
:arrgh!: :88)

SteamWake 12-30-08 07:34 PM

It was a shipment of Balsa :know:


No really I dont know, but they were mostly wood but you wold think after all those rounds it would be driftwood.

Task Force 12-30-08 10:03 PM

Yea, those Sampans seem to be tougher than they look.:yep:

NEON DEON 12-31-08 12:42 AM

Fluckey's encounter with a large sampan:



"In half an hour, I welcomed Tom back aboard. Nine down, six to go. Backing clear,

we sank her with one 5 inch shell.

These single shots at the waterline from 100 yards saved a lot of ammuntiion."


Excerpt was From the book Thunder Below, page 391 paragraph 7 that was written by Admiral Eugene Fluckey the comander of USS Barb.

A Very Super Market 12-31-08 12:43 AM

Got a bit sidetracked there, eh?

NEON DEON 12-31-08 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market
Got a bit sidetracked there, eh?

???


Care to elaborate?

A Very Super Market 12-31-08 01:37 AM

Um... the fact that American submarines would surface in coastal areas to sink sampans?

Urge 12-31-08 01:59 AM

excerpt from Thunder Below p.98
"Since our basic orders were to sweep the seas clean of all fishermen, pickets, weather vessels et cetera, we decided on a gun attack."

Urge

NEON DEON 12-31-08 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market
Um... the fact that American submarines would surface in coastal areas to sink sampans?

No just Fluckey.

The Barb commander wanted to prove the submarines versatility as a weapon of war. So on the Barb's last war patrol he did.

Shore gun bombardments:

7/02/1945: Kaihyo To Island; new naval radar station, radio station, all buildings, boats, and supplies completely destroyed.

07/25/1945: Chiri cannery completely destroyed.

07/26/1945: Shibetoro lumber mill, sampan building yard, all cradles, and all new sampans destroyed.

Rocket attacks:

First rocket attack by US submarine.

06/22/1945: Factories at Shari.

07/13/1945: Shikuka Air Base.

07/14/1945: Shiritori town and Oji paper factory.

07/25/1945: Kashiho Factories.

Vessels destroyed by ramming:

150 ton trawler.

Fluckey regretted sinking the trawler. He claims he did not think about it untill after he did it. From what he claims he wanted to transfer some fuel to it and take it as a prize to bring back to Pearl.

Destroyed by commando raid:


One train and 16 cars.

Vessels destroyed by gunfire:

Three luggers 69 sampans*

*50 or so sampans were done in when they opened up shore bombardment with 20mm and 40mm only. Apparently they hit the fuel supply.

Torpedo.

3 merchants.

1 frigate.

Rockin Robbins 12-31-08 02:14 PM

Fluckey also ended up taking Admiral Lockwood's place after the war. He was a successful sub captain when most were returning to port full of torpedoes complaining they couldn't find anything to shoot at. I think you can use Fluckey as the supreme example of aggressiveness without recklessness. His crew was one of the safest in the fleet. Fluckey was proudest of the fact that in his entire career not one crewmember received the Purple Heart.

That's my kind of commander!

SteamWake 12-31-08 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins
aggressiveness without recklessness.

Yup :|\\

A Very Super Market 01-01-09 01:07 AM

In '45, I doubt there were any Japanese merchants left to sink. That explains it.

Task Force 01-01-09 01:18 AM

Yea, almost all of japans merchant fleet was at the bottom of the ocean. I know, I did acouple of 1944-45 patrols in RFB/ the run silent run deep campaign.:lol:

DeepIron 01-01-09 03:47 PM

Concerning Fluckey, yeah, he was an "unconventional" skipper in a lot of regards...:up:

SteamWake 01-01-09 07:25 PM

[quote=NEON DEON]
Quote:

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market
One train and 16 cars.

Thats still one of my favorite storys. "The sub that sank a train !" :p


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