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AH_Thor 12-30-08 12:59 AM

Spanish Navy 1939 / 1945 GWX3
 
In order to improve and collaborate, you can download the spanish cruiser Canarias and the destroyers Churruca class...

http://hosted.filefront.com/AHThor

In spite of the spanish neutrality we should take into consideration the important support gave to the german U-boats and ships at the spanish harbours, so I think and proposing to give the real importancy such as the spanish Navy as the ports from now on... ;)

By the way, Churruca destroyers were one of the best destroyers in this period of time :up:

Regards

Wreford-Brown 12-30-08 02:26 AM

Thank you AHThor. It's always great to see someone moddeling some of the less well represented nations in order to improve the realism and eye candy.

Wolfehunter 12-30-08 02:58 AM

Hello AH Thor. Thanks for the mod. Wondering... Do I have to manually add it to the harbor or are they positioned in a spanish harbor?


Thanks for your time. :up:

A Very Super Market 12-30-08 03:17 AM

Cool! Its nice to add a little atmosphere whenever I resupply "Das Boot" style. Now if only we could get more French ships....

Oh, and not to whale on the Spanish or anything, just saying, Churruca was based on the British Admiralty class destroyer.

Contact 12-30-08 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AH_Thor
By the way, Churruca destroyers were one of the best destroyers in this period of time :up:

:rotfl: That's a good one :)

Hitman 12-30-08 04:01 AM

Thanks! Was about time to see some spanish warships from the civil war era :up:

I suppose there could be a way to create a new flotilla whose career starts in 1937 and is based in Cadiz to have a campaign against the republican forces? :hmm: Adding some old soviet submarines and ships it could be very interesting. Many WW2 air combat simulators have patches and mods for the spanish civil war, we should have it also :yep: the sense of covert operation and having to be extremely careful when identifying ships (Unlike after the outbreak of WW2, most of what you would see would be neutrals!) would make a for a very interesting gameplay in itself :D

mr chris 12-30-08 04:33 AM

Thanks very much. Thor:up:
Do you have any screens of them?
@Wolfehunter
I'm sure you will have to add them to the campaign files yourself to make them show up in game though.

Hitman 12-30-08 05:50 AM

Hmmmm in my game at least the screws of neither unit are rotating :hmm:

Also, the Canarias has one of the telemeter towers floating around at starbord, and it has three stacks instead of the historic two (Later remodelled to one IIRC).

The destroyer is excellent and matches overall well the historic one, but the cruiser seems to be simply a modified unit (Admiral Scheer?) and it doesn't look as exact.

Wreford-Brown 12-30-08 06:10 AM

You'll also need to add the following to Data\Sea\Englishnames.cfg:
CACanarias=SPS Canarias
DDChurruca=Churruca Class

The Churruca Class destroyer model is outstanding and seems to be historically accurate:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...d-Brown/aa.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w..._10272_375.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...102654_843.jpg
The SPS Canarias seems to look significantly different in the AHThor version. The only picture of the ship that I can find is the one below, although I'm happy to be proven wrong if someone has better RL pictures of the ship. I personally will not be using it as it seems like a renamed version of a different ship:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/canarias.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...102631_406.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...102644_281.jpg

piri_reis 12-30-08 06:25 AM

Same here Hitman, both need a few fixes. The destroyer looks very good, but perhaps depth charge racks could be added to the stern. Overall good job Thor :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman
Hmmmm in my game at least the screws of neither unit are rotating :hmm:

Also, the Canarias has one of the telemeter towers floating around at starbord, and it has three stacks instead of the historic two (Later remodelled to one IIRC).

The destroyer is excellent and matches overall well the historic one, but the cruiser seems to be simply a modified unit (Admiral Scheer?) and it doesn't look as exact.


Hitman 12-30-08 06:30 AM

It certainly did look different, with a single funnel (Although it was in fact two combined in one exit):

http://www.kbismarck.com/mgl/canarias.gif

According to the info I have readed, the Canarias (And sister ship Baleares) were based in the british County-class cruisers. Hull and armament was the same, but funnels were restructured and a better armour added in the deck (The british County class cruisers had almost none there). Superstructures were also reworked with more compact and streamlined forms.


BTW, Canarias served with the fascist forces, so it is not a target for german submarines :up:

EDITED: Link in english: http://www.kbismarck.com/mgl/cruisers.htm

AH_Thor 12-30-08 12:24 PM

Thanks everyone for your support ;)

You are right...Canarias Cruiser is not historically accurate :oops: ( I´m working on that )...but, at least, he is showing part of the Spanish Navy.

Best regards :D

Jimbuna 12-30-08 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter
Hello AH Thor. Thanks for the mod. Wondering... Do I have to manually add it to the harbor or are they positioned in a spanish harbor?


Thanks for your time. :up:

Open up the Campaign_scr in mission editor and add them to whichever ports you want http://www.psionguild.org/forums/ima...s/thumbsup.gif

Wreford-Brown 12-30-08 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AH_Thor
Thanks everyone for your support ;)

You are right...Canarias Cruiser is not historically accurate :oops: ( I´m working on that )...but, at least, he is showing part of the Spanish Navy.

Best regards :D

Excellent work, especially on the Churruca. I can't wait for you to complete the SPS Canarias - it'll be a great addition especially given it's fighting history in the Nationalist Navy sinking 34 ships. I also didn't know that she searched for survivors of the Bismarck.

If there was ever an excuse for scripting a Spanish ship into the campaign that would be it! It would be awesome.

coronas 12-30-08 02:08 PM

Many thanks, AH_Thor: Spanish ships are a gratefull surprise.
They were mistaken with British warships very often and large Spanish flags were painted over the hull.
http://escoben.favshare.com/full.php/canarias11.jpg
Cruiser Canarias was fitted with excellent German telemeters (British didn't supplied because of Civil War). She sunk destroyer Ferrandiz by three salvoes from 16 to 20 Km of distance!


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