Good news, this is my last post here about politics.
 

Mods told me to be silent so I will respect their wishes. I see all the inflamatory rhetoric is trolling when it's a liberal doing it. Oh well I do realize liberal military sim gamers are an extremely small minority to say the least.

wow..you get told to keep quiet...but sea demon and subman1 can keep spreading their "propaganda" ? and starting flame like wars ?

...what a joke:-?

Nah, most of the strange world called Europe agree with you yank liberals, we just dont bother jumping on the jihad some of the conservatives are running here in the GT forum. Nothing good comes from it, especially since its very polarized. (NRA vs treehuggers)

I just have a warm fuzzy feeling that the US is changing for the better, the frantic activity of some members indicates so. :)

It's life. Tho you have to admit it is 100 percent useless to talk politics here.

#1 People who are here mostly know who they are voting for already. And are HIGHLY unlikely to make their choices based on topics in GT.

#2 The is a brick wall on both sides. You mention troopergate and you get a "Not the whole story" You mention Prop 8 gaining and you get "Not the whole story"

Awe man, come on dude, I like your colorful use of the english language.

All the mods said in the post was to tone it down a few notches. That's no reason to clam up on it.

Beside, our exchanges didn't tread on mudslinging, we both kept it pretty much to the facts, which is great.

Darn it! Well there is always religion....:D

Yup. It's silly talking politics in this, or any Internet forum. I really, really try to resist doing so but every now and again end up doing it.

People that spend so much of their time on the Subsim.com forums posting political "headlines" and making it their mission to convert people or "influence" the election, really need to put a clock above their monitor... or something.

PD

:rotfl:

:up:

For the record, in the relevant mod discussion about the recent flaring of tempers, I was the mod who suggested that the certain people (note, people - not person) who are getting at each other and inciting bad behaviour/personal attacks are asked (nicely, as far as possible) to cool it down. I wasn't the one to bring up the issue, but I agreed with the points that other mods brought up. I'm glad that another mod followed up on it.

Considering that I've repeatedly stated my sociopolitical stance as not just liberal, but even socialist, I think the point on 'anti-liberal bias' among moderators is moot. We only have an anti-bad-behaviour bias. Committing or deliberately inciting personal attacks is certainly bad forum behaviour, and the administration really doesn't care which side it comes from. So please don't!

Also, keep in mind that this forum is Neal's submarine simulation club, not the mock UN club. The fact that we can talk about other things here is conditional on the fact that it doesn't sour up the athmosphere of Subsim's main activity. Many other simulation forums, for instance, outright ban political discussions. Just because Neal thought it would be better to let people talk about whatever they wanted doesn't mean it should be taken as an invitation to incite and flame others. That's all. Just play nice, alright? And just because someone else is acting badly on that or other occasion, or posting something that offends you, doesn't mean you have to do the same. The moderators will deal with other people's bad behaviour, we only ask that you look after yours.

That's all. Play nice!

Flamingboat: Why did you start this topic?

It looks to me like an attempt to undermine the mods. :nope:
What ever the merit or demeri of the point you are trying to make, this is not the way to make it.

PD has the right point. SubSim.com is not a political forum. Too many people treat it like one.Flamingboat, all that anyone said is that it is considered poor 'netiquite' to call out a specific member in a very inflamatory thread. 'Debate the issue, not the person' has been the rule here for many, many years. I've been sporatically visting GT all day, and you have been here each time, growing more agitated with each visit. It was going to land you in some very hot water, and all anyone did was try to tell you to take a few hours away. None of the threads are locked. No one is in the brig. No one was banned. No one shouted down your viewpoint. Just come back later. I promise that you'll feel better after a break. Everyone always does.As far as SubSim and it's moderating team, I think it is silly to insist that there is a right-leaning tendency in the editorial policy. Anyone who has read this forum for a few years should know that the only two people that were ever banned in the discourse of political discussion were both right-leaning conservatives.People are too high-strung over this. Election day cannot come fast enough.

Yes indeed. And both accused the Subsim administration of liberal bias repeatedly before they were booted, if I remember correctly :D

Look at this:

http://learnabit.homeserver.com/lab/..._line_ever.wmv

before your ban.

Ali Babba Obama has all the answers to everything.

Give me some of what did the trick for you - sometimes I could use it, I admit. :)

Stop your hostility