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DeepIron 10-06-08 10:11 AM

Hypocrite...
 
When someone like the Pope, the head of the richest and most powerful Christian religion in the world, arrayed in all his splendor like King Solomon of old, makes commentary on "wealth"...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7654878.stm

Sorry, but I can't picture the Holy See doing a communion in 'sackcloth and ashes" anytime soon...

Skybird 10-06-08 10:21 AM

Should I...? :D Should I...? :p Should I...? :sunny:

DeepIron 10-06-08 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
Should I...? :D Should I...? :p Should I...? :sunny:

So... what's holding you back? This should be fertile ground... ;) Point is, while I agree with him, accumulation and pursuit of wealth is rather futile (you can't take it with you and I have my convictions regarding my faith), I simply think it's hypocritical. And, of course, I'm demonstrating my own hypocrisy too I suspect...

Konovalov 10-06-08 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron
So... what's holding you back? This should be fertile ground... ;)

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

UnderseaLcpl 10-06-08 10:35 AM

All I can say is that his grasp of economics is pitiful. :nope:

Foxtrot 10-06-08 11:06 AM

Are those diamonds and gems in his crown?

Rhodes 10-06-08 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxtrot
Are those diamonds and gems in his crown?

No, it's all glass and plastic:lol:

Frame57 10-06-08 11:26 AM

The phrase, "Do as I say, not as I do", comes to mind.

clive bradbury 10-06-08 11:52 AM

Most of the criticisms are self-evident, obviously. Aside from that, where the Dope's argument is fundamentally flawed is that he assumes that people pursue welath for its own sake, whereas most people seek it for the security it brings - good housing, food on the table, health care, better education for your kids, etc.

Ask a catholic child in some backstreet in a South American city whether he would prefer salvation or shoes on his feet and food in his belly.

August 10-06-08 03:50 PM

First off it's "Pope", not "Dope". If you can't discuss the issue without insulting the religion of a third of the planet maybe you ought to keep your opinions to yourself.

Secondly, none of the Catholic churches assets belong to an individual but rather to the organization. The current pope no more owns the diamonds in the Papal Tiara (yeah that's what they call it) than the Queen of England owns the jewels in the English crown and if either should step down their fancy hats go to their successor.

Happy Times 10-06-08 04:40 PM

Im not rich and i know im better of than most in this planet but i dont consider my pursuit of more wealth pointless. Its mans natural desire, and it can either be in the open or in the shadows, i think open is better.

August 10-06-08 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Yeah and just like we can call each and every president/dictator in the world an idiot, we're free to call the pope a dope. If you can't take it it's your problem, not someone else's.

So does that right to be rude extend to comments about cheese eating surrender monkey Frenchies as well or is that different somehow?

August 10-06-08 06:22 PM

And BTW i didn't say the above to be mean but rather to illustrate that what Clive has done is marginalize and discourage every Catholic who reads this forum from participating in this discussion.

Now I don't know him well enough to understand if this was his intention but I see this kind of thing an awful lot here and would rather people keep those attitudes to themselves.

SUBMAN1 10-06-08 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron
When someone like the Pope, the head of the richest and most powerful Christian religion in the world, arrayed in all his splendor like King Solomon of old, makes commentary on "wealth"...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7654878.stm

Sorry, but I can't picture the Holy See doing a communion in 'sackcloth and ashes" anytime soon...

Regardless how you see him, his words ring true. A recession also means less money for his coffers too by the way.

-S

SS107.9MHz 10-06-08 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by August
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Yeah and just like we can call each and every president/dictator in the world an idiot, we're free to call the pope a dope. If you can't take it it's your problem, not someone else's.

So does that right to be rude extend to comments about cheese eating surrender monkey Frenchies as well or is that different somehow?

Can't we all just get along?http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/icons/icon10.gif

C'mon Mihkayl, give Ratzie a break, it's not his fault, it's Catholic Churches Co.

Kidding, August I'm sorry, I tend to partly agree on Mikhayl on his views about deityism, but that doesn' give us the right ot mock others religions... However, this isn't about Cristianity, it's about the Catholic church in general and about it's at present CEO in particular...

You can't hurt beliefs... Let's trie to hurt persons instead http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/icons/icon10.gif I kid! I kid!

Tough calling him Dope is funny:rotfl:


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