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SUBMAN1 09-14-08 12:50 PM

McCain / Palin have significant lead in the electorial college now!!!
 
Good for them!

-S

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6529/cpby4.gif

Sailor Steve 09-14-08 12:52 PM

The electoral college doesn't even convene until the voting's done. Or didn't you know that?

SUBMAN1 09-14-08 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
The electoral college doesn't even convene until the voting's done. Or didn't you know that?

Regardless how the above pic makes you feel, this is what states are going where and what that vote count means for each candidate.

And you know that.

-S

Sailor Steve 09-14-08 12:57 PM

No, I don't know that. It seems you do, or think you do. How is this tabulated? Polling? Guesswork? A secret election they didn't tell us about?

I'd love to actually "know" half the things you claim to.

JoeCorrado 09-14-08 01:03 PM

Care to provide a link to your source, or would that cost you credibility?


Here you go is one that I am not afraid to link to.

Obama 243 - McCain 189 with several states leaning heavily Obama that have not been credited to him as yet but remain instead listed as "toss up" states. You do the math and get back to me, OK?

http://webpages.charter.net/joecorra...ectoralMap.jpg

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
The electoral college doesn't even convene until the voting's done. Or didn't you know that?

Regardless how the above pic makes you feel, this is what states are going where and what that vote count means for each candidate.

And you know that.

-S

Actually, what your "resource" shows is the best possible "spin" being applied in favor of your chosen candidate; aka John McCain. That is true, and you know that. Please do not add your own spin on top of that which you have already posted in an effort to provide credibility that simply does not exist.

SUBMAN1 09-14-08 01:04 PM

I apologize. I always include links except when I'm going 100 MPH - processing video in between my posts here.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ama_vs_mccain/

By the way, I think your link is a little out of date. Mine is current.

-S

PS. Notice the date on CNN's (Sept 3rd)


updated 5:25 p.m. EDT, Wed September 3, 2008


CNN's Electoral Map: Who's ahead

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/...map/index.html

Thats 2 weeks out of date.

JoeCorrado 09-14-08 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
I apologize. I always include links except when I'm going 100 MPH - processing video in between my posts here.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ama_vs_mccain/

By the way, I think your link is a little out of date. Mine is current.

-S

PS. Notice the date on CNN's (Sept 3rd)


updated 5:25 p.m. EDT, Wed September 3, 2008


CNN's Electoral Map: Who's ahead

Thanks for the link, I appreciate it.

Here is the one that I refer to most often. These maps are somewhat skewed because they assume certain events will remain static. I usually look at the states that are "solid" in their support one way or another and take the rest with a grain of salt- when a state goes from toss up to leaning is pretty iffy stuff and in many cases they won't be fully decided till election day.

Here is the map that I memntioned- I stick with it because it includes data from pretty much every poll and averages the results which yeilds a more accurate trend and more reliable results.

http://www.pollster.com/

Once again, thanks for your link and I hope that the election will eventually turn to the issues so that all Americans can decide based upon real issues instead of 30 second attack ads.

Platapus 09-14-08 01:24 PM

That's why these "maps" are not very useful. Depending on the source you can get different results.

http://www.270towin.com/ Has Obama 186 and McCain 178

http://www.electoral-vote.com/ Has McCain at 270 and Obama 268

http://electoralmap.net/index.php Has McCain at 265 and Obama at 264

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/pr...tates/map.html has Obama at 238 and McCain at 227

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...-rove-map.html has Obama at 263 and McCain at 183

You can notice that none of these maps has the same numbers.

Since the individual state electors are under no obligation to vote respective to the popular vote, and since the election is weeks away, I would not put too much emphasis in to any of these maps or polls.

Looking at the numbers on these maps and others, I can only come to the conclusion that the race between Obama and McCain is "pretty close". :yep:

SUBMAN1 09-14-08 01:38 PM

You have to look at the date. Then they become very useful.

-S

mrbeast 09-14-08 06:33 PM

So you don't think that the 104 that could go either way make this map just a little useless as a predictor for who will win the presidency, Subman?

Digital_Trucker 09-14-08 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado

Once again, thanks for your link and I hope that the election will eventually turn to the issues so that all Americans can decide based upon real issues instead of 30 second attack ads.

This coming from someone who trusts a CNN estimate partially based on ADVERTISING EXPENDITURES. :rotfl:

JoeCorrado 09-14-08 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado

Once again, thanks for your link and I hope that the election will eventually turn to the issues so that all Americans can decide based upon real issues instead of 30 second attack ads.

This coming from someone who trusts a CNN estimate partially based on ADVERTISING EXPENDITURES. :rotfl:

Reaading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?

Digital_Trucker 09-14-08 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado
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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado

Once again, thanks for your link and I hope that the election will eventually turn to the issues so that all Americans can decide based upon real issues instead of 30 second attack ads.

This coming from someone who trusts a CNN estimate partially based on ADVERTISING EXPENDITURES. :rotfl:

Reaading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?

Perhaps I missed something, but you posted an image of (and a link to) the CNN electoral estimate and called it one that you were not afraid to link to. If you'll read the text above the pretty picture, it states that the estimate is based partly on advertising expenditures. I thought it pretty damn ironic that you hope the campaign gets away from attack ads, when you're quoting a source that used advertising dollars spent to predict the current voting situation. Perhaps my sense of irony is too acute.

SUBMAN1 09-14-08 08:02 PM

These numbers only mean something if Obama is in the lead. That will never happen of course with him talking about lipstick pigs!

http://www.buildaforum.com/hardknock...images/pig.jpg

-S

JoeCorrado 09-14-08 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado
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Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
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Originally Posted by JoeCorrado

Once again, thanks for your link and I hope that the election will eventually turn to the issues so that all Americans can decide based upon real issues instead of 30 second attack ads.

This coming from someone who trusts a CNN estimate partially based on ADVERTISING EXPENDITURES. :rotfl:

Reaading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?

Perhaps I missed something, but you posted an image of (and a link to) the CNN electoral estimate and called it one that you were not afraid to link to. If you'll read the text above the pretty picture, it states that the estimate is based partly on advertising expenditures. I thought it pretty damn ironic that you hope the campaign gets away from attack ads, when you're quoting a source that used advertising dollars spent to predict the current voting situation. Perhaps my sense of irony is too acute.

ROFL... you have GOT to be kidding. :rotfl:

Pick any map that you like if it makes you happy.

Speaking of pitbulls and Palin- is this what she looks like without the lipstick?

http://www.nexternal.com/swisher/ima...nti_022302.jpg


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