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Onkel Neal 08-23-08 02:07 AM

Obama tabs Biden as running mate
 
Joy! Now, if McCain would get off his butt and select a running mate, we could post the Subsim Presidential poll and kick a whole new round of fighting. ;)

nikimcbee 08-23-08 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
Joy! Now, if McCain would get off his butt and select a running mate, we could post the Subsim Presidential poll and kick a whole new round of fighting. ;)

Will liquor be served in this thread? Politics+booze= quality entertainment:up:

ordering popcorn now...

Konovalov 08-23-08 02:38 AM

Hooray. Get out the coke and popcorn. ;)

Stealth Hunter 08-23-08 02:45 AM

I'm drinking a Miller Chill... so yes, booze is legal in this thread.

http://ichkalliope.typepad.com/photo...ma08button.jpg

Skybird 08-23-08 03:23 AM

Not Clinton - very wise! :yep:

P.S. Am I wrong with the impression that his world trip has somehow backfired against Obama at home?

Stealth Hunter 08-23-08 03:34 AM

Not really. McCain is just pissed off that he didn't get the chance to speak to the German people from Berlin (he spoke in front of a bratwurst house...). It's the only reason why he's attacking Obama, and he urges his followers to do the same.

Skybird 08-23-08 03:38 AM

But German medias report he has not only caught up with Obama, but overtook him, and they see a link to the trip, due to the timing. That Pbama behaved too much like already a president, and people taking that as arrogance.

BTW, what is plural and singular of "media" in English? I always have the bad feeling that I use it wrong.

Stealth Hunter 08-23-08 03:41 AM

Meh, McCain acts the same way. Hypocritical remarks and thoughts left and right. That's politics for 'ya. And anyway, people really shouldn't care. I mean, why do I care if this candidate got a $300 dollar haircut? I don't. I just care about what he thinks we should do to fix the country.

And we normally use "news" to refer to more than one media source.

August 08-23-08 03:52 AM

I don't normally agree with the BBC but i have to say this particular report nails it pretty good.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7575808.stm

Quote:

By taking a holiday in Hawaii, Mr Obama gave Mr McCain the stage to himself for a while and the Republican made the most of the Georgia crisis, underlining his weighty international experience. As relatively high fuel prices caused many Americans to forgo their annual road-trips, Mr McCain also pushed his energy policy message calling for new offshore oil drilling.
Mr Obama once opposed that idea, but now supports limited new drilling and that flip-flop has been a gift to the Republicans.
It is that kind of "bumper sticker" issue that Mr McCain has been able to capitalise on more effectively than Obama, clearly defining his candidacy.
When asked about offshore drilling, Mr McCain is for it.
Mr Obama is much more nuanced: he is for it in some circumstances, but sceptical that it will really work.
Or take Mr Obama's less-than-successful appearance with Mr McCain at a religious forum earlier this month.
When both were asked: "When does life begin?", Mr McCain immediately said: "At the moment of conception".
Mr Obama first said that answering the question was "above my pay-grade" before adding that he was in favour of legal abortion "not because I'm pro-abortion but because, ultimately, I don't think women make these decisions casually. I think they wrestle with these things in profound ways."
Try putting that on a bumper sticker.

Stealth Hunter 08-23-08 03:59 AM

I can agree with Obama on the off-shore drilling, because it's simply going to take too long to get the oil out (and even then, it won't last long; it will simply delay the inevitable). Still, we can try (although the marine ecosystem will pay the price).

I agree with him on the abortion deal (anti-abortionists don't seem to think that women should be trusted with decision-making about their own bodies...).

I do not agree with him on how he's tackled Georgia.

Moreover, I think the large majority of people won't vote for Obama simply because he's black (and that especially can be said for the Southern states). Still, we'll have to see. Until then, it's just speculation.

OneToughHerring 08-23-08 08:29 AM

Joe Biden is not a bad choice, he had some good answers in the debates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9aIb-IplqY

And the 'to the point' answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHdSa...eature=related

Platapus 08-23-08 08:36 AM

I think that no matter what, this will be a close race. I can't see any side winning in a landslide. Our country is too polarized for landslides any more.

Since the race will be close, let's hope it is not decided by people too dumb to operate a ballot. :nope:

Happy Times 08-23-08 09:32 AM

Random access

After a week of no sleep in Tbilisi Georgia, covering the war with Russia, I was finally checking in for my flight to Munich last Monday. All I could think about was getting on the plane, and getting some much needed sleep. Sleep is not necessarily conducive to war zone coverage.


While waiting for my flight to board, I sat in the business lounge enjoying a relaxing drink; finally, an opportunity to simply listen to my iPod and clear my head. All of a sudden I look up - and walking towards me is Joseph Biden, the Democratic senator from Delaware.

Are you freaking kidding me, I thought?

I wandered over, introduced myself — said: “Senator, my name is Cal Perry, I’m a reporter from CNN and just wanted to say hello.” He immediately smiled and he then asked me to sit with him while we waited for the flight. Strange I thought — for someone who was at the time involved in a heated US debate as to whether he could potentially be the VP candidate for Barak Obama.

But he quickly directed the conversation to Iraq — a place I spent four years covering for CNN. He peppered me with questions: How are things going there do you think? Who are the most important and reliable politicians in your opinion? Do you think Abdul Aziz Hakim is the man who wields the most power? He clearly already knew that I had spent time there, and wanted to get straightforward opinion from a reporter.

Which is unusual, because as reporters, we keep our own opinions to ourselves, just reporting the facts. Being asked my opinion was a bit awkward — but I gave it to him anyway.

Then, like any reporter would: I started in on him …

He told me about his trips to Iraq, saying how amazed he was at the bravery of US troops, how young they are, and how they have to make life and death decisions on a daily basis.

We spoke at length about combat hospitals in Iraq — places I’ve spent a great deal of time. You could see it in his eyes — a veteran himself, he cares so deeply for the young U.S. men and women stationed overseas.

He mentioned to me: “I was only 29 years old when I was elected to the U.S. Senate” then comparing the decisions he’s had to make in the Senate with the decisions the troops make under combat conditions. He made it sound like there is no comparison — that what they do, is far and above any call of duty.

Just before his aide came overand said “Senator, it’s time to go back to the United States” I asked him the obvious question: Do you think you’ll be named as running mate for Barack Obama? His answer was brief, but it came with a smile on his face, “that question is the reason I’m not doing interviews while in Georgia.”

As I boarded my plane with Senator Biden I could not help think: Did I just meet the next Vice President of the United States?

If so, how random, how cool.

http://inthefield.blogs.cnn.com/2008...random-access/

Digital_Trucker 08-23-08 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
I agree with him on the abortion deal (anti-abortionists don't seem to think that women should be trusted with decision-making about their own bodies...).

The problem with that logic is that the woman's body isn't the only body that decisions are made about. Sorry, but I can't vote for a man who supports partial birth abortion.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
Moreover, I think the large majority of people won't vote for Obama simply because he's black (and that especially can be said for the Southern states). Still, we'll have to see. Until then, it's just speculation.

Didn't you mean to say that a large majority of white people won't vote for him because he is black? I believe there will be plenty of black people who vote for him because he IS black. Why even bring that up?

SUBMAN1 08-23-08 12:46 PM

Just a question - drilling for oil. Why is the excuse thrown around by the democrats that the reason we shouldn't do it is that it will take too long to get it out of the ground?

How exactly is that a reason why we should't move forward?

signed,

Puzzled


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