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http://www.spiegel.de/international/...570800,00.html

This is a reprint from the NYT, tailored for American current issues, however, if replacing the American examples with ones from German inner politics, I fear both nations are haunted by the same plague.

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What I mean, instead, is that know-nothingism — the insistence that there are simple, brute-force, instant-gratification answers to every problem, and that there’s something effeminate and weak about anyone who suggests otherwise — has become the core of Republican policy and political strategy. The party’s de facto slogan has become: “Real men don’t think things through.”

That is a credo not limited to American Republicans, I would say. It is representative for most political happening in the West in general.

Hahahahahaha! This is the dumbest article yet out of Europe! Enough said!

I just have to ask, do you seriously believe this? Someone should fire that Euro reporter! I bet his name ends with Schultz and is direct from Germany!

If you don't know who Schultz is, look here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan's_Heroes

-S

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[edit] Sergeant Schultz

Feldwebel (Sergeant) Hans Georg Schultz, serial number 23781 (John Banner) is Klink's bumbling, highly unmilitary sergeant of the guard. Schultz is a basically good-hearted man who, when confronted by evidence of the prisoners' covert activities, will simply look the other way, repeating "I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing!" (or, more commonly as the series went on, simply "I see nothing, nothing!") in order to avoid becoming involved in any way. This eventually became a catch phrase of the series. In civilian life, he is the owner of a highly-successful toy and novelty company, The Schotzie Toy Company. Schultz carried a Krag-Jørgensen rifle which he never keeps loaded. He wears a fictitious version of the Iron Cross (4th Grade) which, in episode "The Rise and Fall of Sergeant Schultz", was awarded by General Kammler, a friend from World War I, who addresses Schultz by first name (Hans), and whom Schultz addresses as Lieutenant Kammler. In the second season episode "Killer Klink", Schultz is described by Klink as being "in his forties". In reality, Banner was in his late fifties.

Basically, Schultz was an idiot - quite simillar to this reporter.

Read the first line of Skybird's post. "This is a reprint from the NYT".

Paul Krugman is an American.

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I just have to ask, do you seriously believe this?

I think it was a pretty funny satirical article. He seemed to be poking fun at both the Republican and Democratic parties as well as the whole American political environment.

I would not get too spun up over what is clearly a light hearted article. :up:

It just HAS to be true if it was in Spiegel... :roll:

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Read the first line of Skybird's post. "This is a reprint from the NYT".

Paul Krugman is an American.

Oh my, he is blundering again. ;)

Rather surprised by some of the responses here this being as how Know-Nothingism was a radical Republican movement from the earliest days of the Party. In 1856 a soon to be senator from Illinois, one Abraham Lincoln, wrote of the Know-Nothings of his day:

"If the Know-Nothings get control, the Declaration of Independence will read: All men are created equal except for Negroes, foreigners and Catholics."

When the movement collapsed, many Know-Nothings joined the Republican Party taking their politics with them and giving President Lincoln no end of grief as he tried to prosecute his war for the Union. I suppose that they don't teach too much American history from the pre-Civil War era anymore.

I've studied a lot about that era, including causes and domestic and foreign policies, and like to think I'm enlightened on the subject. I wanted to be offended, but I have to admit that for all that I, um, aherm, knew nothing about the No-Nothings.

Thanks for the explanation, Randomizer.:rock:

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Originally Posted by Randomizer

More on Know Nothingism here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

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The Know Nothing movement was a nativist American political movement of the 1850s. It was empowered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by Irish Catholic immigrants, who were often regarded as hostile to US values and controlled by the Pope in Rome. Mainly active from 1854–56, it strove to curb immigration and naturalization, though its efforts met with little success. There were few prominent leaders, and the largely middle-class and entirely Protestant membership fragmented over the issue of slavery. Most ended up joining the Republican Party by the time of the 1860 presidential election.[1][2]
The movement originated in New York in 1843 as the American Republican Party. It spread to other states as the Native American Party and became a national party in 1845. In 1855 it renamed itself the American Party. The origin of the "Know Nothing" term was in the semi-secret organization of the party. When a member was asked about its activities, he was supposed to reply, "I know nothing."

[QUOTE=Skybird]

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I stumble along this theory long time ago and it was the Satanist movement where i found it! We were taking about religeon and one said dare you to go read about satanist so i did, can't remeber the site but it was the followers of DeVay an orginal one there are many wannabies find the orginal and they mention what their real beliefs are. What is said above the Satanist firmly go by. :hmm: