Combat footage from an Mi-24 Hind's perspective
 

There is something scary about a Hind. Maybe it's the size? Dunno. later generation Russian Helo's just don't have its presence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2cK...eature=related

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Here is the Ka-50 for comparrison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RITb...eature=related

Thats about the best KA-50 video I have seen though.

Nice footage :up:

Something tells me that we'll be seeing more of this sort of footage soon :hmm:

You're probably right!

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Agreed. The front-on perspective of it, especially, is intimidating imo. Just has that heavy/thick/meaty look to it.

http://eldib.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/mi35_2.jpg

Hmmm....where was the cockpit shot from? It wasn't a mi24.
Mi17 perhaps?

I think it was an Mi-8 actually.

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I agree the Hind is intimidating, but the Ka-50 and the Ka-52 are simply the coolest gunships around. Sleek and deadly.

I think I also like them because, like the BMP afv, they give the finger to America's overbloated and horrendously ineffecient military-industrial complex. The Soviets kind of had the same thing, but at least they had overseers who expected some results.

Consider the RAH-66 Commanche in it's capacity as the ultimate evolution of the LHX project. Gov wants a single-seat, "fighter" helicopter for reece and other applications . We spend billions researching things from NOTAR configs to advanced computers that could handle the nuances of tail-rotor control. In the end, it became a 2-seater anyway, and in '04, we scrapped it due to expense.

Kamov just puts a contra-rotating rotor on their chopper and calls it a day. Single seat, fast, effecient and deadly for billions less.


It's kind of like the Bradley AF-POS vs. the BMP (all models). Soviets had it decades earlier and for a much, much smaller investment.

Actually, both of those cases are like that joke about NASA. They spent millions developing a ball-point pen that functions in zero gravity, and the Soviets use a pencil. (I'm pretty sure that's not a true story but it's a great analogy)

So I vote for Kamov's super-sexy Black Shark and Alligator choppers, over the Hind (all models).

Kamov is definitly more advanced. The Mi-24 is like a large bouncer fron a bar.

Sounds like you've had personal experience with them, no? :D

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Can't blame him. I, too was bounced from a bar once by a Soviet gunship.

I'm talking about being bounced form a bar period! :p I can't say I've ever been thrown out!

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I know, but that won't stop me fromthrowing in some lame-ass joke.

All this does is make me think about the constant waiting for the hugely improved follow on from LOMAC being Black Shark. Then after this they are possibly going to do an F16 Falcon and maybe a Mi-24 Hind. One can only hope. I'll be more than happy with Black Shark which sees a return to the full on survey sim of old hopefully close to the benchmark survey combat flight sim Falcon 4.

Gotta hand it to the Russians, they do know how to make a good helicopter :up: