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sonar732 07-26-08 10:35 AM

Report: Iran now has 6,000 centrifuges for uranium
 
From Yahoo News...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080726/...a/iran_nuclear


TEHRAN, Iran - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Saturday that Iran now possesses 6,000 centrifuges, a significant increase in the number of uranium-enriching machines in its nuclear program, the semi-official Fars news agency reported.

Frame57 07-26-08 11:52 AM

"Hear ye O' Israel, bomb thy enemies to the north...."

Platapus 07-26-08 12:13 PM

To the North that would be Lebanon. :)

Frame57 07-26-08 09:54 PM

OK! "Hear ye O' Israel bomb thy enemies farther north..."

Blacklight 07-26-08 10:09 PM

Quote:

TEHRAN, Iran - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Saturday that Iran now possesses 6,000 centrifuges, a significant increase in the number of uranium-enriching machines in its nuclear program, the semi-official Fars news agency reported.
Those aren't for their nuclear program ! They're for that space program Iran has been planning recently ! :D

Frame57 07-26-08 10:24 PM

Yes and cancer research I hear. They truly want to save the world.

Platapus 07-27-08 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frame57
OK! "Hear ye O' Israel bomb thy enemies farther north..."

That would be Turkey :)

Jimbuna 07-27-08 07:09 AM

Try east, beyond Jordan, Syria and Iraq :up:

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/413...42007opmv3.jpg

Platapus 07-27-08 07:22 AM

Pretty much along the famous Iraq/Pakistan border :yep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC0Y7zMcn_4

Jimbuna 07-27-08 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus
Pretty much along the famous Iraq/Pakistan border :yep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC0Y7zMcn_4

LMAO :rotfl:

:up:

Diopos 07-27-08 08:49 AM

Don't worry. It takes 6001 to make the bomb!

rifleman13 07-27-08 08:57 AM

Come on guys, let's start the End of the World and get this thing over with!

JOKE! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

6000 centrifuges? Seriously?:shifty:

How many centrifuges does it take for an Iranian to enrich uranium for nuclear power production? :hmm:

I think less than that, I think... :roll:

Platapus 07-27-08 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rifleman13
How many centrifuges does it take for an Iranian to enrich uranium for nuclear power production? :hmm:

Well that is the question. This is why nuclear analysts are bemused at the hoopla about the number of centrifuges.

The number of centrifuges means precisely dick when trying to figure out whether a nuclear program is for reactor fuel or for weapon elements.

What is important is the cascade arrangement. A cascade is a group of centrifuges interconnected in a specific manner. Groups of cascades are then connected with other cascades depending on what enrichment levels you want. It is important to note that any operational configuration of cascades will allow you to enrich uranium to what ever level you need. It is just that specific cascade configurations are vastly more efficient at specific enrichment levels.

Enrichment of uranium is dependent on what is called a Separative Work Unit. Don't even try to understand SWU's as it will drive you insane. Just understand that it is a relative measure of the "effectiveness" of an enrichment process, in this case Centrifuges. Different configurations of cascades have different SWU values.

How many centrifuges does it take to enrich 235U to 92% (weapons grade)?

Only one. But it will take megayears to enrich it. This is why multiple centrifuges arranged in specific cascade configurations are used to drastically shorten the time of enrichment. The more times you put your UF6 through the process the more enriched it will get. Enrichment is on a log. curve. Lower enrichments are pretty easy but that last few percentages to get to 92% can be a bitch.

Larger numbers of cascades allows you to enrich uranium faster than with lower number cascades. Whether you are enriching uranium to lower levels or higher levels is less dependent on the number of cascades but more dependent on how they are connected.

There is no number of centrifuges that will indicate a weapons program vice a energy program. We can’t say, Hey once you go over 10,000 centrifuges you must be in a weapons program. Not true. Be real nice if it were true.

So don’t get “spun up” <snicker> on the number of centrifuges. The IAEA is still inspecting the cascade farms and have found nothing contraindicating enrichment to low levels (Low being defined as <20% 235U).

One more thing. Possessing 6,000 centrifuges is not the same as being able to maintain operation of same. These types of centrifuges are very very hard to keep running. They are picky about their environment. Until the IAEA tells us that the Iranians have 6,000 centrifuges running with UF6. I am taking the announcement with a large grain of green salt.

Frame57 07-27-08 12:14 PM

Dang it! OK last try! "Hear ye O' Israel, bomb thy enemies........ uh, which way did you guys say Iran was?

Raptor1 07-27-08 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frame57
Dang it! OK last try! "Hear ye O' Israel, bomb thy enemies........ uh, which way did you guys say Iran was?

What's all this "direction" nonsense, just fill the sky with ammunition and hope it lands where you wanted it to :smug:


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